I need numbers on "involuntary job loss" in the USA during the past
three years(2000,2001,2002).  I would also like the data provided from
more than one source , if possible. (E.g the US Labor Dept, the
Conference Board and the Federal Reserve Bank publish this type of
data).  Also, it would be a plus if the data was available according
to types of work. I am not interested in "unemployment" figures. What
I need are "numbers of people" laid off by their employer in each of
the three years  Reasons for the layoffs are not needed in your
answer.

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 28 Nov 2003 12:03 PST

I can provide you with statistics from a most realiable source on
"mass layoffs" and "extended mass layoffs" dating back to 1996 if you
are interested in that as an answer.

Example of what the data provides:

Monthly mass layoff numbers are from establishments which have at
least 50 initial claims for unemployment insurance (UI) filed against
them during a 5-week period. Extended mass layoff numbers (released
quarterly) are from a subset of such establishments--those where the
employer indicates that 50 or more people were separated from their
jobs for at least 31 days. Total numbers of workers involuntarily
separated from their jobs are provided.

regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 28 Nov 2003 12:11 PST

In addition I have found (from the same source) where the data can be
customized during the query to include one or more selections from a
host of industries and ircumstances. The generated report also
includes an optional graph if this is of interest for your purposes.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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Clarification of Question by renoir-ga on 28 Nov 2003 15:27 PST

Dear tutuzdad:   Thanks for the fast reponse, because it made me think
more precisely of what I really need.  Ideally, I want figures for
people fired from their job, permanently.  "Mass Layoff" might
qualify, provided they had no chance of being rehired for their old
job, e.g. a tire plant shuts down and those unfortunate to lose their
job "have to look elsewhere", because there are no more "tire jobs". 
These people are then permanently unemployed or they have to look
elswhere for work.
    Data from 1996 thru 2003 would be great, and would help towards a
5 star rating.  The 50 claims in 5 week period is ok, we just need to
be sure they had no chance of getting their old job back.  Also, I
don't need every job counted, because smaller firms may not show up in
your data.
     I hope this gives you enough clarification, if not let me know. 
I'm looking forward to your research and answer.

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 28 Nov 2003 15:42 PST

The data that I can supply does not ferret out those who stand no
chance of regaining their jobs. I suppose one would need a crystal
ball for that. I can supply you with what I have if you like, but
while it is customizable, it does not include that option.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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Clarification of Question by renoir-ga on 28 Nov 2003 20:51 PST

ok.  just supply what you have found.

Dear renoir-ga;

Thank you for allowing me an opportunity to answer your interesting question.

At your recommendation, I turned to the United States Department of
Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics to obtian the answer to your
question:

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS:
http://www.bls.gov/

Under the subject heading ?Overview of BLS Statistics on Employment
and Unemployment? [ http://www.bls.gov/bls/employment.htm ] is the
subtopic MASS LAYOFFS [ http://www.bls.gov/mls/home.htm ] which is the
primary source of the data you requested. This document provides many
more reports than I am listing here since doing so would be rather
redundant, but I do want to point out a number of links that I feel
will be of particular interest for your purposes:

You would do well to read this directive before beginning:
DATA REVISION PROCEDURE FOR MASS LAYOFFS STATISTICS DATA
http://www.bls.gov/mls/mlsproc.htm


TABLE 1. MASS LAYOFF EVENTS AND INITIAL CLAIMANTS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT
INSURANCE, OCTOBER 2001 TO OCTOBER 2003
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/mmls.t01.htm


TABLE 2. INDUSTRY DISTRIBUTION: MASS LAYOFF EVENTS AND INITIAL
CLAIMANTS FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/mmls.t02.htm


EXTENDED MASS LAYOFFS ? 2002
http://www.bls.gov/mls/mlsreport971.pdf


ARCHIVED NEWS RELEASES FOR MASS LAYOFFS (MONTHLY) [SEPTEMBER 1996 ? FEBRUARY 2003]
http://www.bls.gov/schedule/archives/mmls_nr.htm


(Same data presented quarterly)
http://www.bls.gov/schedule/archives/mslo_nr.htm


MASS LAYOFF STATISTICS ? MOST REQUESTED DATA
(This is text report query is both free and customizable)
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ml


MASS LAYOFF AND EXTENDED MASS LAYOFF STATISTICS ? CUSTOMIZABLE REPORTS
(Requires java, but it?s free, fully customizable and generates an
impressive report)
http://data.bls.gov/labjava/outside.jsp?survey=ml


FLAT FILES
(This one is for the serious researcher only. This download is the
whole enormous enchilada!)
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/time.series/ml/


As I mentioned, you will likely find many more detailed reports
concerning layoffs in this government document but these I felt were
the most impressive reports relative to your question.

Below you will find that I have carefully defined my search strategy
for you in the event that you need to search for more information. By
following the same type of searches that I did you may be able to
enhance the research I have provided even further. I hope you find
that that my research exceeds your expectations. If you have any
questions about my research please post a clarification request prior
to rating the answer. Otherwise, I welcome your rating and your final
comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near
future. Thank you for bringing your question to us.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad ? Google Answers Researcher


INFORMATION SOURCES

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SEARCH TERMS USED:

US labor, termination, statistics, employment, unemployment, trends,
data, layoff, layoffs, mass layoff, extended mass layoff, mass
layoffs, extended mass layoffs

Some Lost Jobs May Never Come Back
Improved Productivity Allowed Manufacturers to Reduce Payrolls Permanently
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19996-2003Nov28.html

"Nearly a quarter of a century ago, when the number of manufacturing
jobs in the United States peaked at just shy of 20 million, General
Motors Corp. provided 454,000 of them, more than any other company in
America. It took that much labor for GM assembly lines to turn out
about 5 million cars and trucks a year.

Today GM makes roughly the same number of cars and trucks, but employs
just 118,000 people as a result of a drive to become more efficient
and cut costs to survive against ferocious global competition. In the
past five years alone, GM has cut the amount of labor required to
assemble a vehicle by 30 percent, to just 24.44 hours, according to
the Harbour Report, which tracks such data for the industry."

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