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Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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18 Jun 2002 02:50 PDT
Expires: 18 Jun 2003 02:50 PDT Question ID: 28368 |
Kurt Jahnke was an important German spy and saboteur who operated in the United States and Mexico during WW1. During WW2, he operated mainly from Berlin and from his estate in Pomerania. There IS documentary evidence obtained from Moscow that he was captured and interrogated by SMERESH (the Russians) in April 1945 and executed in May. However, there is another story that says that Jahnke escaped capture and, after WW2, he lived in Switzerland and, supposedly, there is a CIA report to this effect. Can anyone find any compelling evidence that Jahnke was NOT executed and that he did actually survive the war? |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
Answered By: romana-ga on 18 Jun 2002 13:30 PDT Rated: |
Hi, thanks for using Google Answers! I couldn't find a proof that Kurt Jahnke did actually survive the war. But I found a German professor (Reinhard R. Doerries) who published a book and an essay dealing with Kurt Jahnke. Here are the titles of the book and the article: Reinhard R. Doerries. Imperial Challenge (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1989). Reinhard R. Doerries. Tracing Kurt Jahnke: Aspects of the Study of German Intelligence, in: Historians and Archivists, ed. by George O. Kent. Fairfax, VA: George Mason UP, 1991, 27-44. References found on this URL: http://www.wiso.uni-erlangen.de/WiSo/Sozw/awengl/pub-prof.htm e-mail address of Prof. Reinhard: Doerries@wiso.uni-erlangen.de Living in Germany, it is not possible to join professor Doerries by e-mail rightg now (here, it is 10h30 pm.) I will send him an e-mail tomorrow morning and foward his answer to you as an "Answer Clarification" if this is OK for you. In my opinion, Professor Reinhard must know the exact bibliographical data of Kurt Jahnke. I hope to be able to send you the clarification as soon as possible! kind regards romana-ga | |
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Not the answer that I wanted but full marks for trying. Many thanks. |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: politicalguru-ga on 18 Jun 2002 07:52 PDT |
Dear probonopublico, I have searched the net (search terms detailed bellow) and found no evidence of such. I found conspiracist linking the CIC (Counter Intelligence Corps) with rehabilitated Nazis. I also know as a German that the US had re-instated many ex-Nazi low-ranked officials in their part of divided Germany. Moreover, if there are historical documents dealing with his trail and execution, one must have hard evidence to cast a doubt in their authentnicity or to interpret them otherwise. I am attaching my search terms, for other researchers, if they chose to try and answer this question (in my humble opinion unanswerable, since there's no such hard evidemce), or for you: Kurt Jahnke Kurt Jahnke CIA Kurt Jahnke CIC Kurt Jahnke überlebt (which means in German "survived"). I searched in google.com and in google.de |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: thx1138-ga on 18 Jun 2002 08:02 PDT |
Good News ! the British Secret Service have files on him (the file number is KV 2/755) and are available to the public under the Freedom of Information Act. Here is a summary of the file: Kurt JAHNKE: German. Having reportedly served in the US armed forces before the First World War, JAHNKE became an ingenious and successful saboteur operating from the German Consulate in San Francisco in 1915 and 1916. When the USA came into the war he moved his base to Mexico City. After the war his intelligence activities continued until 1921 when he returned to Germany. In the mid-1920's he was working for Soviet military intelligence. In about 1934 JAHNKE formed a political intelligence bureau known as the Abteilung Pfeffer or the Jahnke Bureau which by the outbreak of the Second World War operated in the Nazi Party Chancellery under the aegis of Rudolf Hess. In 1940 this became part of the RSHA under Heydrich and Schellenberg. Towards the end of the Second World War JAHNKE was adviser to the head of RSHA Amt VI [foreign political intelligence]. In late 1944 he made overtures to the Allies You can order information from the file online or you can actually go to Kew Gardens in London to see the files (where are you?) Click on this link to see more information on the file http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/BasicSearchResults.asp?txtSearchTerm=Jahnke+&txtFirstDate=&txtLastDate=&txtRestriction=&hdnSortType=Reference&image1.x=47&image1.y=12 Then click on the text under Title/Scope and Content Then on Content, Summary etc To order details from the file either online or by snailmail click the Request this button Interestingly the files cover the time period from 1918 Aug 23 to 1945 Oct 01 so I wonder if he was executed in May 1945 when the file goes on to Oct 1945 Whilst I havenīt been able to answer your specific question (hence I havenīt posted this as an answer) I am sure you will have alot of new information including his eventual end (whatever that was!) Good Luck with your research THX1138 |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: probonopublico-ga on 18 Jun 2002 08:10 PDT |
Many thanks to both Commentators, so far. I have already seen the recently released PRO file on Jahnke which contains some fascinating material but, of course, it doesn't answer the question that I posed. |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: probonopublico-ga on 18 Jun 2002 21:29 PDT |
Thanks for suggesting Professor Reinhard Doerries (the author of Imperial Challenge). I have previously been in contact with the Professor but, if he knows, he ain't saying. Sorry, but that is not the answer that I am looking for. |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: xemion-ga on 19 Jun 2002 09:48 PDT |
probonopublico, After answering your first question on this subject, another thought occured to me. The professor WENT TO RUSSIA to obtain documents concerning Jahnke. If a CIA report did actually exist, it would be much easier to obtain than flying to Russia and purchasing reports from them. I didn't think of this earlier. I think it's safe to assume for this reason only the report does not exist, unless it came out in the last few years (in which case it would be on the CIA website). Thanks again! xemion-ga |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: probonopublico-ga on 20 Jul 2002 23:34 PDT |
NEW INFORMATION!!!! Have taken another look at the State Security Services (MI5) file on Kurt Jahnke in the UK Public Record Office (KV2/755). It has been reported elsewhere that Jahnke was executed by SMERSH in May 1945 and there are no documents in his file after 1 Oct 1945. HOWEVER, several documents are listed in the covering 'Minutes'(Index)through to 4 Sept 1951 but these haven't survived the weeding process. Minute No 44 dated 8 Dec 1949 summarises one of the missing documents as follows: 'From Ministry of Defence stating JAHNKE in Oct 1949 had inserted a notice in a Hamburg paper announcing his return from Moscow and that he would in future reside in Berlin.' So how about that? |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: thx1138-ga on 06 Dec 2002 06:58 PST |
Hi probonopublico, Just to let you know (if you donīt already!) someone else is investigating the elusive Kurt Jahnke: http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/juenger-list/2002-October/000821.html Best regards THX1138 |
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Re: Kurt Jahnke - German spy & saboteur
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Dec 2002 21:11 PST |
Hi, thx1138 Good to hear from you again & many thanks for the link. I was not previously aware of your new info. I don't think that the correspondent has made all the right assumptions, though. Nevertheless KJ remains an interesting figure. Kindest regards Bryan |
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