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The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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05 Dec 2003 03:16 PST
Expires: 04 Jan 2004 03:16 PST Question ID: 283761 |
I would like to get a copy. But where? And at what cost? |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
Answered By: journalist-ga on 05 Dec 2003 08:19 PST Rated: |
Greetings Probonopublico: Thanks for requesting my comment as an answer. I'm not too familiar with these codes so I wasn't certain that I had found the information you were seeking. Glad to be of assistance! Below is my comment reproduced as an answer. ********* I've located a few references for you that may be of interest but I'm not certain they contain exactly what you seek. Anyway, here they are for your perusal: On Some Linear Codes http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:LYeQxl2fqk8J:www.public.asu.edu/~mkgupta/public_html/home/doc/my_papers/PhD_thesis.ps+%22gray+code%22+diplomatic&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 "The other two men were George Boole the English Mathematician whose algebra of propositional calculus forms the basis of the modern design of computer logic and Emile Baudot a french engineer whose cyclic-permuted code (now often called Gray code as it was patented by Frank Gray on 17.03.1953[46] ) represented a major advance in telegraphy." [see about halfway down the page for "Code Sequencer"] http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:wLBz_vg39pwJ:klabs.org/richcontent/Tutorial/MiniCourses/fsm_gsfc_march_2003/pdf_files/23_gray_codes.pdf+cyclic-permuted+code&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Gray codes http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:s5YQ0GpYiQsJ:klabs.org/richcontent/Tutorial/MiniCourses/fsm_gsfc_march_2003/23_gray_codes.ppt+cyclic-permuted+code&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 US5739775: Digital input and control deviceDIGITAL INPUT AND CONTROL DEVICE http://www.delphion.com/details?pn10=US05739775 Gray code example http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/graycode.html You may want to look at the results from the search links below. Good luck! Best regards, journalist-ga SEARCH STRATEGY: "gray code" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22gray+code%22 "gray code" cipher ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22gray+code%22+cipher "gray code" cryptography ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22gray+code%22+cryptography cyclic-permuted code ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=cyclic-permuted+code |
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A marvellous job, as usual! Many thanks. |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: juggler-ga on 05 Dec 2003 04:14 PST |
Hi Bryan, I thought I had a winner with: "United States Diplomatic Codes and Ciphers, 1775-1938" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0913750204/ Unfortunately, based on the description on the front flap, it seems that the complete codes are only included for pre-1876 ciphers. According to the front flap (read via the "look side" feature), the "text and appendix will enable historians and others to read secret... dispatches before 1876, and explain code designs after that year." Thus, the complete Gray Code apparently isn't in there, but I figured I'd mention the book anyway if for no other reason than to save you the time and trouble of bothering with it. Good luck! -juggler |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: probonopublico-ga on 05 Dec 2003 06:38 PST |
Hi, Juggler Many thanks for looking and for sharing your information. Kindest regards Bryan |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: journalist-ga on 05 Dec 2003 07:34 PST |
Greetings Probonopublico: I've located a few references for you that may be of interest but I'm not certain they contain exactly what you seek. Anyway, here they are for your perusal: On Some Linear Codes http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:LYeQxl2fqk8J:www.public.asu.edu/~mkgupta/public_html/home/doc/my_papers/PhD_thesis.ps+%22gray+code%22+diplomatic&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 "The other two men were George Boole the English Mathematician whose algebra of propositional calculus forms the basis of the modern design of computer logic and Emile Baudot a french engineer whose cyclic-permuted code (now often called Gray code as it was patented by Frank Gray on 17.03.1953[46] ) represented a major advance in telegraphy." [see about halfway down the page for "Code Sequencer"] http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:wLBz_vg39pwJ:klabs.org/richcontent/Tutorial/MiniCourses/fsm_gsfc_march_2003/pdf_files/23_gray_codes.pdf+cyclic-permuted+code&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Gray codes http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:s5YQ0GpYiQsJ:klabs.org/richcontent/Tutorial/MiniCourses/fsm_gsfc_march_2003/23_gray_codes.ppt+cyclic-permuted+code&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 US5739775: Digital input and control deviceDIGITAL INPUT AND CONTROL DEVICE http://www.delphion.com/details?pn10=US05739775 Gray code example http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/graycode.html You may want to look at the results from the search links below. Good luck! Best regards, journalist-ga SEARCH STRATEGY: "gray code" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22gray+code%22 "gray code" cipher ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22gray+code%22+cipher "gray code" cryptography ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22gray+code%22+cryptography cyclic-permuted code ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=cyclic-permuted+code |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: pafalafa-ga on 05 Dec 2003 08:00 PST |
Hello pbp-ga, You sure come up with some weird...er, I mean....fascinating questions. The phrase "Gray Code" seems to have two distinct contexts in cryptography -- one as an infamous WWII (and earlier) era code cracked by both the Germans and Japanese, and the other the Gray Code that journalist-ga describes below, patented by one Frank Gray in 1953 (I can steer you to the patent, by the way). Do you know if these are one and the same? There's enough conceptual overlap that they might be. On the other hand, I can't find anything explicitly linking the two. It's all a bit strange, even....secretive! |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: probonopublico-ga on 05 Dec 2003 08:04 PST |
Journalist Marvellous! Just what I wanted. Now, why couldn't I do that myself? Please post your comment as an Answer and go to the top of the class. Sorry, I forgot that you are already at the top of the class. Bryan |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: probonopublico-ga on 05 Dec 2003 08:09 PST |
Hi, Pafalafa Many thanks for your Comment. I hadn't realised that (possibly) there were two different codes ... I was actually interested in the code that was cracked by the G's and the J's in WW2 ... (or anyone else for that matter, at any earlier time) ... SO ... if you can dig up anything more (as I am sure you will) then you can join Journalist at the top of the class and I'll post another question directly to you. Bryan |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: juggler-ga on 05 Dec 2003 10:20 PST |
Bryan, If it's any help, the Gray Code that the State Department used was apparently an alphabetical code. See this newsgroup message: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=53gse2%24gpv%40tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca In this thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=53gse2%24gpv%40tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522gray%2Bcode%2522%2Bquote%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D53gse2%2524gpv%2540tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca%26rnum%3D8 The message above references the use of the code word ZOXIL. That was the Gray Code word for "quotation mark" or "quote." Perhaps not too wisely, code clerks simply used UNZOXIL as the code word for "unquote." :-) This anecdote is recalled by James Thurber on page 61 of "The Beast in Me and Other Animals." http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/015610850X/ Regards, juggler |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: probonopublico-ga on 05 Dec 2003 12:31 PST |
Hi, Again, Juggler You are doing an amazing job! Many thanks. I bet that you want to be moved up to the top of the class, as well. Right? Well, you've got your wish. Please keep looking! Regards Bryan |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: fp-ga on 05 Dec 2003 12:48 PST |
Hi, Bryan I suppose you know the book by William B. Breuer "Undercover Tales of World War II": http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471379441/ref=sr_aps_books_1_2/026-5817793-1583628 Book review: http://www.moaa.org/magazine/march2001/bookshelf.asp Just in case you haven't read this book yet - here is an excerpt (concerning Japan and the Gray Code): http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/20/04713186/0471318620.pdf or http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:Tb3CfwuAthEJ:media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/20/04713186/0471318620.pdf+%22Japanese+tailor%22+%22gray+code%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Regards Freddy |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Dec 2003 00:32 PST |
Hi, Freddy Good to hear from you again ... And many thanks for the link. I'll get a copy of the book, although I am not expecting that it will provide the assurances that I am seeking. Please see my Clarification on Question 283846 WHEN IT GETS POSTED. Regards Bryan |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: pfenquiringmind-ga on 07 Dec 2003 09:37 PST |
Hi folks, I am a total newbie to google answers (just found it an hour ago), and while cruising found this interesting discussion. While I know nothing about Gray Codes of early 19xx other than what I have read here, I know lots about Gray codes as discussed by these references: >>US5739775: Digital input and control deviceDIGITAL INPUT AND CONTROL DEVICE >>http://www.delphion.com/details?pn10=US05739775 >>Gray code example >>http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/graycode.html These Gray codes have nothing to do with encryption. They are trivially created from binary numbers, (and vice-versa) with electronic logic gates called XOR gates. This is broadly documented in electronics texts, and is commonly used in electronic components that unfortunately for your searces, happen to be called "encoders". In this case though, what is often being encoded is the angular position of a rotating shaft. A common usage would be a Gray Code encoder on the shaft of a motor that would be used to tell the instantaneous angle of the shaft. This is different from a tachometer application. Like decimal numbers, binary numbers have a characteristic that when you add 1 to a number, multiple digits can change: 09999 + 1 => 10000 Decimal 001111111 + 1 => 010000000 Binary There are times when this can be very inconvenient. Gray codes have the characteristic that adding or subtracting 1 from the number never changes more than 1 bit. The NIST site gives the 3 bit Gray code example: 000 001 011 010 110 111 101 100 These are the numbers 0 thru 7 in Gray code, and if you look carefully you will see that for each number, it differs by only 1 bit from its neighbor to both the left and right, including from 7 back to 0. Given the way these codes are created and used, I highly doubt that there is any connection to early WWII encryption codes other than the name. Anyway, since what you are interested in is encryption, I felt it may help you not to waste time on an unrelated track. (Of similar vintage, I have had the fun of playing with, disassembling and reassembling an enigma machine. Way cool). |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: pafalafa-ga on 07 Dec 2003 09:43 PST |
Welcome to the club, pfenquiringmind-ga, and thanks for posting quite a useful comment. Explore around...this is a real treasure trove of information and intellectual challenge. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. pafalafa-ga |
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Re: The 'Gray Code' formerly used by the US Diplomatic Service from 1919 onwards
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Dec 2003 11:40 PST |
I've now got the 2 books cited in 283761 and/or 283846. It's now evident that the Gray Code was a book code comprising 1173 pages. The codes were in 5-letter groups and two groups were added together to save on transmission costs. (A 10-letter word counted as one word.) So, I simply cannot believe the claim that ... [QUOTE] The Gray Code was so compromised that in the 1920s the American consul in Shanghai made his retirement speech before the entire diplomatic community. [UNQUOTE] Thought you'd like to know. Bryan |
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