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Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11?
Category: Reference, Education and News > Current Events Asked by: grthumongous-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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13 Dec 2003 17:22 PST
Expires: 12 Jan 2004 17:22 PST Question ID: 286837 |
Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11? A madrassa is a religious school. Some of the extremists have been incubated in Saudi-financed madrassas that teach a fanatical denomination of Islam known as Wahhabism. If one views the war on terror as a contest of ideas, like the Cold War, rather than a struggle against organized crime, like the Drug War, then presumably countering the inculcation of Hate into young minds is essential. Hence my question: Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been impacted up or down since 9/11? Please limit the scope to funding such schools *outside* Saudi Arabian territory. | |
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Re: Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11?
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 18 Dec 2003 05:49 PST Rated: |
Dear Grthumongous, I will be very careful in my answer, and will say "probably yes". Naturally, I am not basing my research on intelligence reports or the Saudi budget, and the Saudi government, as you can see later, could deny any connection to the incidents mentioned bellow, and claim that there are isolated incidents that do not represent Saudi policy. Just recently (about a month ago), expert witnesses testifying in the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, said that the Saudi Arabia continues to support extremism through schools and mosques. (See U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom "Is Saudi Arabia a Strategic Threat? November 18 hearing (11/17/03)" <http://www.uscirf.gov/hearings/18Nov03/saudi.php3>). The Baptist Press reports, that "The commission also has proposed a congressionally funded study to determine if Saudi Arabia is directly or indirectly funding the spread of Wahhabism to other countries.". I guess that this report - if publicly available (unlike the reports on possible Saudi involvement in the September 11 attacks) - will give you an exact answer. [See also: Tom Carter, "Saudis' strict Islam called a 'threat'" Washington Times, <http://washingtontimes.com/world/20031118-113127-4259r.htm>]. A recent Newsweek/MSN investigative report reaffirms, that the Saudi Arabia continues to support such schools, although sums are not mentioned, and it is noted that the Saudi Arabia committed to fire teachers who preach for extremism in schools funded by the Kingdom (Source: Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball "Are the Saudis funding schools devoted to fomenting radical Islamic ideology?" MSN Newsweek Web Exclusive, Dec. 3, 2003 <http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3660811&p1=0>). The Saudi government officially established five Islamic academies, in Germany, the US, the UK, Russia and Bosnia-Herzegovina (see: King Fahd bin Abdul Aziz Website, "Academies" <http://www.kingfahdbinabdulaziz.com/main/m100.htm>). In addition, the regime funds - in $87 Billion - "religious propaganda", which includes funding to schools and mosques (See: Mark Silverberg, "The Wahhabi Invasion of America", <http://jfednepa.org/mark%20silverberg/wahhabi.html>). Moreover, "In March 2002, the official Saudi newspaper Ain Al-Yaqeen described royal expenditures abroad for spreading the faith as "astronomical." It traced to Saudi funding no fewer than 1,500 mosques, 202 colleges, and some 2,000 schools for Muslim children "in non-Islamic countries in Europe, North and South America, Australia and Asia." (Source: Stephen Schwartz, "Reading, Writing, and Extremism - What they are teaching in Saudi-financed American schools" , Weekly Standard - 06/02/2003, Volume 008, Issue 37, <http://www.geocities.com/arabracismplusjihad/SaudiFinancedSchoolsInUS.html> - please note, that this GeoCities site seems to me to have an anti-Muslim bias. However, Schwartz is a renowned expert on Wahhabism). On February 2002, the Saudis published themselves a long list of institutions enjoying their support. The Saudis of course deny that such activity occurs in the schools they fund. "Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar bin sultan bin Abd Al-Aziz replied to that statement on January 15, 2002, in a press release posted on the Saudi Arabian Embassy website, "The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia prohibits the teaching of hatred and violence. Charges that Saudis fund schools that do so are baseless and lack an understanding of our society, culture, and laws? I have great respect for Senator Levin but I am surprised by his statement. If he has any concerns, I urge him to visit Saudi Arabia..." (Source: Steven Stalinsky, "Saudi Arabia's Education System" December 30, 2002, as published in Front Page Magazine, <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5243> - see note on the research conducted by MEMRI bellow). Of the five officially funded King Fahd academies: Islamic Academy in Washington <http://www.washingtonislamicacademy.org/> is ran by the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center. The school "[..] uses textbooks imported from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia that are laced with anti-Christian and anti-Semitic dogma, observers say" (Source: Paul Sperry, "WAR ON TERROR Imam tied to hijackers weighing Saudi job offer One-time subject of FBI probe headed hard-line mosque in D.C." World Net Daily, August 5, 2003, <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33932>). Schwartz adds, that "ISA withdrew from the Virginia Association of Independent Schools in 2002 after an inquiry into its funding and administration, as well as publicity in the Washington Post about the harshness of its Wahhabi curriculum. A February 25, 2002, story in the Post quoted an 11th-grade textbook, for example, to the effect that on the Day of Judgment, the trees will say, "Oh Muslim, Oh servant of God, here is a Jew hiding behind me. Come here and kill him." (Source: Schwartz, ibid). "Front Page Magazine" published a year ago an interesting review of Saudi funding for their schools (which was, according to this article, not affected by the 9/11 tragedy). The article and research were not conducted by the conservative magazine itself, but by MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute), a research institute: Steven Stalinsky, "Saudi Arabia's Education System" December 30, 2002, as published in Front Page Magazine, http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5243 In Bonn, as stated in the abovementioned Newsweek article, a teacher in the school called for Jihad in November 2003 and was dismissed. However, Newsweek claims that the real reason for lack of action against the school, is German concern regarding its foreign relations with the Saudi Arabia, and due to messages implying that German school children in the Kingdom will be harassed (ibid). In Australia, schools funding reaches millions of dollars (since the report is Australian, it could be Australian Dollars): "Canberra is also concerned about Saudi funding coming directly into Australia. Some of this money passes through the Saudi embassy and some of it goes direct to Islamic schools, study centres, mosques etc in Australia. [...] Sources say it runs into millions of dollars." (Source: "Saudi funds stretch to extremes of our shores" The Australian <http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7728127%255E25377,00.html>). I hope this answered your question. Search strategy: [name of institution] + [extremism/funding] (this seems to be the most successful) wahhabi funding schools Saudi support schools wahhabi continues Saudi support schools wahhabi "after September" Saudi support schools wahhabi "after 911" (not successful) Saudi support schools wahhabi Saudi support schools outside wahhabi Please contact me if you need any further clarification before you tip/rate this answer. | |
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Re: Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11?
From: politicalguru-ga on 18 Dec 2003 08:26 PST |
Thank you for the rating and the kind tip! Seasons Greetings! |
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Re: Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11?
From: adam70701-ga on 01 Apr 2004 14:52 PST |
I have to tell you that you have been bamboozled by the media in their attempt to cast a negative light on Islam. Wahhabism is a very simple and misunderstood concept. You will rarely hear a Muslim refer to themselves as Wahabis and this is because the concept of Wahhabisim only means that all Muslims should return to worshiping One God and quit worshiping other deities as has occurred throughout many so called Islamic sects. So, while a wide variety of Muslims will claim to agree to the concept of Wahhabism, the fact is that they still have cultural influences that overshadow their understanding of the Oneness of God. This is where the likes of Osama Bin Laden and other terrorist organizations go afoul of Islam. They derive extremist ideas that have no basis in Islam as a means of gaining power. They are not interested in pleasing their Creator. They are unable to correct their own understanding of Islam so they instead focus their energy thinking that the rest of the world needs to be corrected. The Prophet of Islam, Muhammad taught his followers that change starts at the individual level. Saudi Arabia does tend to follow the interpretation of Islam that focuses on maintaining belief in one God, but this is not the source of extremist ideas. The government and the Scholars of Saudi Arabia are against terrorism and continue to be vocal in this regard. The following excerpt was taken from a recent article published on http://www.fatwaonline.com. ?In a lengthy statement, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh told Saudis to listen to their religious authorities and ignore fanatical interpretations of Islaam. ?One of the fallouts from extremism in understanding Islaam is that some people call for jihaad for the sake of God without justification,? Sheikh Abdul Aziz said. ?These people raise the banner of jihaad to draw the young into their ranks and not to fight for God,? he added. Militants like Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden have often called for jihaad against countries they consider ?infidel? such as the United States, urging his followers to target Western interests in Saudi Arabia and abroad. Other militants have also used Islaam as a rallying cry, justifying attacks by saying they are doing God?s will. ?Young Muslims must try and better themselves and their country but not through violence, because Islaam is not a violent religion, it is a merciful religion,? he said. ?A Muslim must understand his religion. It is the duty of the young and the whole Muslim world to know that violence is not a way to achieve reform,? Al-Sheikh said.? Now that you have some background information, let me specifically address your question. The question of whether some so called Muslims knowingly fund terrorism can be answered with a simple yes. Has their desire to do so increased? Yes, it has, however their means of doing so has decreased thanks in part to the government of Saudi Arabia. The world has political problems beyond a simple solution. They key to making American Muslims better understand these beliefs is to not categorically put them all in one melting pot of beliefs. The media should be more active in identifying these often slanderous terms that are being thrown around when the topic of Islam comes up. I am an American Muslim. I follow the original interpretation of Islam according to the first three generations (otherwise called the Salaf) I can assure you based on my own experience with others who follow the salaf that terrorist acts are strictly prohibited. In fact even demonstrating that you disagree with the U.S. is not allowed under the interpretation of Islam according to the Salaf. The Saudi government has gone through great lengths to promote this very same version of Islam. It is a terrible misrepresentation to say that because many Saudi?s have a different agenda the government and Scholars follow that same agenda. |
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Re: Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11?
From: politicalguru-ga on 05 Apr 2004 02:20 PDT |
More news on the subject: Newsweek: Saudi Money Tied to Radical Clerics , NewsMax Wires, Monday, Apr. 05, 2004 <http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/4/4/165946.shtml> Newsweek: "Exclusive: New Questions About Saudi Money?and Bandar" <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4661093/> |
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Re: Has Saudi funding for Wahhabistic Madrassa schools been affected since 9/11?
From: adam70701-ga on 06 Apr 2004 15:44 PDT |
Also some more news showing the Saudi side of the prevention of terrorism. My only purpose in these posts is to add some balance to the onslaught of negative Saudi press. It is unfair to say that because some Saudi's are terrorist that the whole country is somehow responsible for terrorism. Also, when people think of Saudi Arabia they think of Islam and terrorism has no place in Islam regardless of what the media trys to potray. Saudi Arabian banks begin freezing irregular accounts - http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/business/2004/April/business_April72.xml§ion=business Officials cite Saudi aid in curbing terror funding http://www.iht.com/articles/511894.html Kingdom Gets Clean Bill of Health From FATF - KSA http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_s.asp?StoryId=46144 Leading al-Qaida Militant Reportedly Killed in Saudi Gun Battle http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=1ABBA807-BD51-4E57-9D69759FD5DD0677 |
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