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Subject:
Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
Category: Arts and Entertainment Asked by: mgeduld-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
16 Dec 2003 11:14 PST
Expires: 15 Jan 2004 11:14 PST Question ID: 287761 |
When I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s, I used to hear this strange, eerie tune on the radio late at night. What WAS it? I used to listen to this radio program called The CBS Radio Mystery Theatre (Twilight Zone-like radio plays). The station I listened to it on was WBBM in Chicago. After I'd been listening for about a year, I started getting this uneasy feeling at certain times during the broadcast, but I couldn't figure out why. Then I realized what it was: there was a weird little tune playing over-and-over again in the background, so quiet that it was just on the edge of my consciousness. Every night, this tune would start playing, but always at different times. Quiet as it was, after I became aware of it, I couldn't NOT hear it. Sometimes I would drift off to sleep during the show, and then suddenly snap awake when that tune started playing. When I asked other people to listen to it, they generally couldn't hear it unless I taped the show and played it over and over again. Then they'd say, "oh yeah! I hear it now." Now, this wasn't background music to the radio drama, because sometimes I would hear it WHILE the real background music was playing. Anyway, it wasn't appropriate to the stories. Actually, the music may have had nothing to do with the CBS Mystery Theatre. I might have been something WBBM was playing, and it might have played during other programs too, but at that time, the Mystery Theatre was the only thing I listened to on that station. It occurred to me that it might be coming from another station close by, and that the sound might be bleeding into WBBM. So I spend hours subtly adjusting the radio dial, but it was pretty clear to me that the tune was coming from WBBM. It was a short tune that repeated about 10 times and then stopped. It was very quiet, and it sounded like it was being played on the very high keys of a piano (no chords, just a tapped out melody) or maybe even a child's xylophone. That tune will be stuck in my head forever! I made an mp3 of myself whistling it. It's really bad in quality, because my mic is old and broken, but all of the crackling will simulate the way I used to hear it, because WBBM didn't come through all that clearly. http://www.grumblebee.com/mystery.mp3 This is one of the biggest mysteries of my life. If anyone can clear it up, I'll be eternally grateful! |
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Re: Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
From: jackburton-ga on 17 Dec 2003 03:32 PST |
From the description it was most likely subliminal programming signals piggy-backing on the carrier waves. |
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Re: Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
From: aht-ga on 19 Dec 2003 00:08 PST |
mgeduld-ga: On a related note, you can listen to some archived episodes of Radio Mystery Theater through some fan sites, such as: http://www.jessthemess.net/cbsrmt/ If you have the time, listen to a few episodes, and see if you can hear that sound (perhaps the easiest way is to simply start the audio stream in the background, then wait to see if the hair on the back of your neck stands up part-way through the episode). Regards, aht-ga Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
From: mgeduld-ga on 19 Dec 2003 08:48 PST |
Thanks. Actually, I have ALL of the episodes in mp3 form. I bought them from someone on ebay. And while I haven't listened to all of them yet (there are about 1400), I've listened to a bunch of them and have yet to hear the tune. I suspect it was a WBBM phenomenon, having nothing to do with the Mystery Theatre. I heard it during the Mystery Theatre because that was the only program I listened to on that station. |
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Re: Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
From: aht-ga on 20 Dec 2003 12:30 PST |
mgeduld-ga: Yes, after I posted that comment I thought again about what you described, and realized that you'd stated that you did NOT think it was part of RMT, that it was a WBBM phenomenon instead. I then tried to look for any information about the WBBM station tones, but was not able to find anything. I too remember listening to late-night mysteries on the radio while I was falling asleep, and typically the radio station would play their tones at some point in the broadcast. This was separate from their 'top of the hour' tones. Perhaps your best path to solving this problem is to contact the current WBBM, and see if they can tell you (or put you in touch with a retired station technician/engineer who can). Good luck! aht-ga |
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Re: Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
From: aht-ga on 20 Dec 2003 12:38 PST |
Here's WBBM's contact form, if you haven't already found it: http://www.wbbm780.com/asp/ContactUs.asp I suggest using the "Comments to the engineers" option. The 70's/80's may have been when one of them started at the station... and something like station identification tones would have been the type of grunt-work that they would have started with, especially for a late-night program. Normally, for a question such as this, I would pursue it for you; however, in this particular case, there will be a need for some dialogue between you and the engineers at WBBM, so no value in having me as the middle-person! Good luck! aht-ga |
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Re: Strange, eerie background music on the radio in the 70s/80s.
From: ipfan-ga on 02 Feb 2004 08:40 PST |
Dear mgeduld: I asked my father who has been a radio engineer for 65 years (no kidding). He has worked in everything from the earliest days of AM through to and including Internet web casting. Here is his answer (note that he assumes you were listening on AM): "Re: WBBM...WBBM was and is also an FM Stereo station...What he heard probably was the testing of the FM sub-carrier bleeding into their AM equipment...He should also talk to WBBM's Chief Engineer." A sub-carrier is a special little secret frequency the FCC allows FM stations to broadcast along with their main FM signal for purposes of carrying, e.g., background music ("Muzak"). So, you could put up a special FM radio in a business and tune it to the "secret" FM sub-carrier frequency and listen to commercial-free background music for a fee. If WBBM was testing the FM sub-carrier with this special little series of tones, that tone sequence could have bled over into the AM signal. I have been around radio stations my whole life and this answer makes sense to me. I would now check with WBBM is you haven't already. Let me know what you find out! ipfan |
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