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Subject:
Postmarks in Paris
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: luckyghost-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
18 Dec 2003 16:59 PST
Expires: 17 Jan 2004 16:59 PST Question ID: 288524 |
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Subject:
Re: Postmarks in Paris
Answered By: justaskscott-ga on 18 Dec 2003 19:53 PST Rated: |
Hello luckyghost, The following pages indicate that "Return to Sender" in France is "Retour à l'envoyeur". "English/French Dictionary - P" La Poste http://laposte2.cvf.fr/courrierinternational/anglais/kiosque/dico.asp?ver=fr&le=pqr "Feature Country: France" (Networking News Review, Volume 9 - Issue 2, September 2002) [under heading "Returned Mail"] EuroLAN Research http://www.eurolanresearch.com/news0902.htm#FRANCE [In Canada, the preferred phrase is "Renvoi à l'expéditeur". You can compare the relative use of these phrases in France and Canada by searching for each phrase in conjunction with either the term site:fr or the term site:ca.] I have not seen any indication that there is a special phrase meaning "insufficient postage". I searched long enough to conclude that there is no general translation of that phrase. However, it is always difficult to prove a negative proposition. So, if some commenter has different information, I'm sure that you and I would both welcome it. - justaskscott Search terms used on Google, in various combinations: "return to sender" site:fr site:ca retour renvoi "retour à l'envoyeur" "retour a l'envoyeur" "renvoi à l'expéditeur" "renvoi a l'expediteur" "insufficient postage" insuffisante insuffisant |
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Subject:
Re: Postmarks in Paris
From: pinkfreud-ga on 18 Dec 2003 20:43 PST |
I'd like to add a bit to Scott's excellent answer. As a former philatelist, I recall that French mail which was returned to the sender was stamped "REBUTS." This is borne out by these references: http://www.jhinc.com/reference/ref_translate.asp http://www.wdsmail.com/info/GlossaryForeignTerms.asp "Rebuts: 1: postal marking instruction to return the piece of mail. 2: (Fr.) (service des) undeliverable or refused international mail being returned to sender." http://www.askphil.org/b25r.htm Your question asks specifically about sending mail within Paris; my only experience with returned French mail was international mail, and 'REBUTS' seemed to be the standard usage in the days when I was collecting stamps and envelopes. This was in the late 1950s and early 1960s. |
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