![]() |
|
|
| Subject:
Help me spend less money
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: natalieemt-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
21 Dec 2003 20:36 PST
Expires: 20 Jan 2004 20:36 PST Question ID: 289396 |
|
| There is no answer at this time. |
|
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: boquinha-ga on 21 Dec 2003 21:49 PST |
Hi natalieemt-ga! Interesting question! It reminds me of a something I learned from one of my professors in graduate school. This professor used to run her own private psychotherapy office and she put together a handbook on dealing with different kinds of issues. Anyway, one point that she made (both in lectures and in her handbook) that has stuck with me is one about "motivation." She talked about how she wanted to exercise, but just didn't have the motivation. She kept using this "lack of motivation" as an excuse to not exercise. And then she began to look at it this way--"I don't need motivation. I simply need to put on my running shoes and DO IT!" And that was that. A slight change in perspective made all the difference! Clearly you have GREAT incentive (staying home as much as possible with your children), so perhaps some slight change in perspective could help you in this. I'm not sure what that might be at this point, but as soon as I read your question, this story came to mind, so I thought I'd share it with you. I hope it helps at least a little! I admire what it is you're striving to do! Happy Holidays! Boquinha-ga |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: probonopublico-ga on 21 Dec 2003 21:51 PST |
A lot of folk find it difficult to adjust their spending to some lower income level. It's happening all the time. I guess this is because for many years we have been conditioned to ever-increasing income levels. One person I know (and admire) has managed it after huge initial difficulties. She has put away all her credit cards for use only in an emergency. She has opened a new bank account that is dedicated to her bills. A regular amount goes in every month and she never takes anything out except for the mandatory stuff. She also has a savings account and she tucks away as much as she can every time she has some spare cash. She now enjoys watching her savings grow. It's simply an attitude of mind. And you can do it, too. C'mon get started RIGHT AWAY. And Good Luck! Bryan |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: tlspiegel-ga on 21 Dec 2003 23:04 PST |
Hi natalieemt, Nice article at this link. http://www.ivillage.com/money/life_stage/deepdebt/articles/0,,165368_244273,00.html Good Luck to you! :) tlspiegel |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: robertskelton-ga on 21 Dec 2003 23:14 PST |
Do you have anything that you have bought, never used, and is residing in a closet? Put it on display, force yourself to defend its purchase. That means clothes worn once, appliances used once or twice ever, books never opened... Transfer a small amount of money into a saving account every payday, and have it done automatically. Gradually increase the amount. It's harder to spend money you don't have, and most people become proud of how much they have saved. If you smoke, stop. |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: xarqi-ga on 22 Dec 2003 00:43 PST |
Try this: Imagine that your very best friend is in a precarious financial situation, with month left at the end of the money. He/she come to you with a box of receipts and payslips and cries on your shoulder. With your background, you immediately leap in to help - organise all of the expenses, start a log for him/her to keep up to date, and set up a computer-based expense tracking system. You go over it carefully and prioritise and identify avoidable expenditure and together, develop a plan. Every day, you call him/her and make sure that that the plan is being adhered to. Now - if you would do that for you best friend, shouldn't you do it for yourself? |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: techtor-ga on 22 Dec 2003 01:21 PST |
Natalieemt, Discipline is a very big part of the equation. If you're a person who succumbs to a temptation just because it's there, then you will have quite a problem. For people like you, many "daring" tips have been offered, though they cannot apply to all, and it will always be a different case with every person. I read the book "The Millionaire Next Door", which Boquinha above also has read, and it contains sound financial management priniciples which not only help make millionaires, but are applicable to keeping any person's finances intact. For example, it may surprise you that most millionaires are not fooled by designer labels or names, because if they find a thrift shop with shoes worth $30 that work as well as $300 shoes from Nine West or Saks (I'm just guessing prices here), they'll go for the thrift shop shoes. Another is that credit doesn't really pay, so millionaires often like to pay in cash, and keep only one or two credit cards. If you have a squad of credit cards, best cancel the lot of them and leave only one or two (one is better), so you won't be tempted to buy on credit everytime you see something. But if they're all roiled in debt, well, you know what to do first. This is all I have to offer for now. Hope my suggestions start you on a road of discovery. :) |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: byrd-ga on 22 Dec 2003 05:43 PST |
Hi Natalieemt, When I was a newly divorced single mother on a limited income and trying to learn to fly (an expensive undertaking, but one I wanted with all my heart!) I had a little trick that worked for me. Everytime I was tempted to spend money on something, I'd translate its price into flying hours as in, "Well this thing costs $10, that's .2 hours of flying," or "$25 for that?? That's worth a half-hour of flying time! No thanks," and so forth. Since I knew what flying cost it wasn't too difficult to do a little mental calculation and since whatever it was that was tempting me would cost me flying time, it also wasn't too difficult to forego it in favor of that which I wanted more. Perhaps you could adjust this little trick to your situation. Since staying home with your children is your top priority, why not try to get in the habit of translating what you purchase into time lost with your kids? Putting it in those terms might make it easier to bypass by temptation. If you say to yourself, "Well buying this item means two hours that I'll have to spend at work away from my children" or "Spending this much money on lunch means I'll have to go back to work full time one day sooner ...." Well, you get the idea. I hope this helps a little. Like the others I admire your determination and wish you the best of luck! Happy Holidays to you and your children! Byrd-ga |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: stressedmum-ga on 22 Dec 2003 14:58 PST |
These sites offer some interesting perspectives on the psychological issues associated with spending: http://www.familyresource.com/finance/8/296/ http://www.nocourtdivorce.com/articles_text.phtml?articleID=12 Now for some quasi-psychological thoughts from me (no qualifications here, just countless chats over a cuppa with friends!) Do you feel you somehow don't 'deserve' to allowed to stay at home -- is it a difficult life being a single mum and deep down are you retaliating against 'punishment' or do you feel it's something you love so much that you feel unworthy so deep down you're trying to sabotage it? Or could it be that when you were 'full time corporate' were you or your associates scornful or less than respectful of stay-at-home mums? Is there a stigma attached to your new status that could explain your actions? Give yourself permission to buy your lunch, like just corporate full timers, when you're working or you could make yourself a fantastic brown bag lunch (far better than anything you could buy at the health food store)and give yourself an allowance to buy some of the treats you obviously need to reward yourself for coping with your new life. But write yourself a list of "Things I Absolutely, Positively Must Do" including getting Quicken fired up, establishing a budget -- and sticking to it, working out ways to save money -- and doing it! -- establishing a limited access savings account (that has been a lifesaver to me this year! I actually have savings again!) You're doing a tough job and no matter that single parenting is a normal way of life for so many people these days, it's hard work. Remember to congratulate yourself every now and then for the great job you're doing. Good luck and Merry Christmas. |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: trueparent-ga on 22 Dec 2003 19:47 PST |
If you have a car, get rid of it. If this does not "fit" your situation, MOVE! The last time I looked, (over twenty years ago), Austin, Texas was the least expensive cost-of-living city in the US. byrd-ga might know something about this. I know that I'm not addressing the bulk of your question, about self-doubt, but I'm wondering if you're being too hard on yourself. Cost-of-living expenses can be devastating, and they are always subject to abrupt rises. Recently, in New York City, the cost of natural gas went up 28%, overnight, and is expected to go up 51%, shortly, so heating your house with gas has just devastated a lot of folks. Some Congressman is stammering about "investigating" the reasons for the increase, but "me thinks the fix is in". Most persons, (over 94%), that buy a new house, move less than ten miles. So I know that my advice may be useless to you, because you would not want to "lose" all your friends, family and part-time job by moving to a new, unknown situation. There are undoubtedly a myriad of other reasons you might not want to "pull up roots", to save money. But it is the only really effective way, in my opinion, to save the most, while you apply all the above suggestions to your arsenal of "thrift" ideas. Could there be any harm in checking my advice/direction out? Who knows? Maybe there's a low cost-of-living location near to you. This would include the necessity of being a location where you would be able to "function" comfortably without owning/operating a car, although you may not have one now.... Best Wishes, and God Bless, trueparent-GA |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: respree-ga on 22 Dec 2003 23:47 PST |
Clearly you are concerned about depleting your savings. I suppose if you had $10 million in the bank, you wouldn't be asking the question. In your married life, you had two good full time paying jobs. Now you have one part time paying job, with 1/4 (maybe less) of the income you used to have. I think you need to seriously decide what is important to you. You say you 'prefer' to work part time in order to spend time with your kids. Unfortunately, this preference comes at a cost, which is the depletion of your savings. Its just a matter of time before this luxury is no longer yours. I don't want to seem too harsh, but it seems to me you are being irresponsible by drawing on your savings for your living expenses. I think you should consider the future and plan for life's many unexpected expenses. What if you car breaks down and you need $5000 in repairs? What if you or your family have medical expenses not covered by your insurance plan? What will you do when your savings is totally gone? What if you are incapacitated and can no longer work? What will you live on in your senior years? The list goes on... I'm not a psychologist, but it appears you are hurting in some way and are trying to dull the pain by overeating and overspending. Time to be more financially responsible. If you continue on this path, soon your savings will turn into debt. Inasmuch as I can appreciate you wanting to spend time with your children, the harsh reality is that you cannot afford to do so. If it were me, I would go back to work full time to build, rather than deplete your assets. Food for thought. |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: kriswrite-ga on 23 Dec 2003 10:29 PST |
I recommend that you read "Your Money Or Your Life." This book helps you get at the root of your spending habits (the psycological reasons for it), and helps you change those habits to much more healthy ones. Here's the Amazon link, but you should be able to find it in any good bookstore: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140286780/qid=1072204070//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/002-0375667-8300069?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: luciaphile-ga on 23 Dec 2003 12:53 PST |
As someone who has also done Weight Watchers, I think you could probably adapt a lot of their approaches to this. It's not all that different really. From personal experience, the first thing that always helps me is to sit down with my bills and look at how much debt and how many expenses I have. I find that I need to do this periodically. It's far too easy to conveniently forget just what your financial picture is--kind of like not looking at the scale for months on end. If you don't get an accurate look at your situation, it's too easy for your mind to make up something you can safely ignore. Think of this as stock-taking and it's always been like a splash of cold water on my spending. Then I think you need to look at where the money is going. Are there items that typically eat up the bulk of it? What are your weaknesses? If you've done Weight Watchers than you've probably kept a food diary. It's really the same thing. Once you know where your defenses are weakest, you can shore them up. It's not going to be a simple or painless process, but as some of the others have said, I think you just need to sit down and do it. I know you didn't want financial advice, but there's a great book out there called "Get a Financial Life" that I found particularly useful. It covers a lot of the basics and what I really loved about it is that it is not geared toward someone making 6-figures who's having trouble deciding where to invest. Good, solid practical advice and although the subtitle says 20s and 30s, it really broke down a lot of things for me. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684872617/qid%3D1030083941/sr%3D1-1/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F1/002-1353501-7009649 Best of luck to you. Regards, luciaphile-ga |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: tutuzdad-ga on 23 Dec 2003 13:29 PST |
I can tell you a fool-proof method of saving twenty dollars, if that helps. regards; tutuzdad-ga |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: tehuti-ga on 23 Dec 2003 16:23 PST |
Hello natalieemt, I know your situation exactly, although when it happened to me I had to stay in full time work just to survive, since the mortgage was eating 35% of my salary - well, I could have gone on the dole, but have a big block against doing that. For several years, I had to cope with buying all our clothes secondhand from charity shops, except for school uniform, and haunting the supermarket just before closing time, when a lot of near-expiry food would be reduced. One thing that helped was choosing a not too expensive treat/luxury (something I wouldn't otherwise buy for myself) and using that as motivation not to spend money on something else. For example, taking sandwiches to work rather than buying them for a month and then using a proportion of what I'd saved to fund the "reward". The other thing I did was to find work I could do at home late at night, in order to invest energy into earning rather than into saving - at various times I have done, and still do, indexing, editing, proofreading and translation, but basically you need to look at what you have to offer. I ended up boosting my income by 50% like this without losing time with the girls. Some of that money was invested into buying stock to sell on eBay, which returned on average 50% profit. The beauty is that over the last 10 years or so, all this has developed to a point where I have just been able to chuck in the day job to become a full time freelance working from home, looking to earn more than I ever did as an employee :) Oh, by the way, since my brain cannot cope with columns of figures, I have never ever produced budgets for myself, and now pay an accountant to look after my business accounts. You mention your financial background - instead of trying to apply it to yourself, you could apply to sort out other people's problems - for a fee. |
| Subject:
Re: Help me spend less money
From: claudietta-ga on 24 Dec 2003 01:05 PST |
Dear Natalie, Except for the weight part, I know someone just like you, and honestly, I think you need some outside help (outside of you). You need a peresonal financial advisor, perhaps, to take you through the steps of financial planning and executing. I think that there are many well-educated women out there, who know all the answers about how to manage money, but planning or executing a plan is very difficult unless one has a deadline, running out of money soon, or dieing. We humans are weird that way. And us women are more dependent on social relationships to get things done, than say men. This is why we need others. It could be a new husband, boyfriend, best-friend, or professional--basically, anyone who's best interest in your financial success. The bottom line is that perhaps we're all like children, needing guidance, corrigation, castigation, or a pat on the back. These things you cannot do for yourself. Invest in yourself by getting someone else to do it. Meanwhile, definitely cut dump expenses like $3-lattes, and such. Claudietta |
If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you. |
| Search Google Answers for |
| Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |