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Subject: Follow up to antique religiuos texts
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: pdgiven-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 02 Jan 2004 20:06 PST
Expires: 01 Feb 2004 20:06 PST
Question ID: 292586
One of the books I have in mind is what I believe to be a 1st edition
copy of Chateaubriand's 'Genius of Christianity' published in 1856,
Subject: Re: Follow up to antique religiuos texts
Answered By: journalist-ga on 02 Jan 2004 21:58 PST
Greetings Pdgiven:

The 1856 edition of Chateaubriand's 'Genius of Christianity' appears
to be the translated edition.  The original edition was published in
1802 in his native language of French.

"The Genius of Christianity (1802, tr. 1856) made Chateaubriand the
most important author of his time in France. Two tragic love stories
included in this volume, ?Atala? (1801) and ?René? (1802), exemplify
the melancholy, exotic description of nature and the evocative
language that became a trademark of romantic fiction."

While your English edition may be of some value as an antique book (or
possibly as the 1st edition in English), the actual first edition is
the 1802 printing.

If you'd like to compare your book's condition with other works by
Chateaubriand, please visit these links to see the worth of other
books by him offered for sale.  There are images accompanying these
links so when you read the grading claims of the books, it should help
you determine what your volume may be worth.

These range from $125 to $170 in value from this bookseller.

Also, here is the listing for one of his French works:
CHATEAUBRIAND, FRANÇOIS RENÉ DE (1768-1848).  French author and
statesman; one of the founders of Romanticism.
A.L.S., in French, 2 pp 4to, Paris, June 30, 1824. 

I hope this information assists you in determining the worth of your
book.  I did not locate a 1st edition copy of "Genius of Christianity"
for sale on the Internet but a well-established seller of rare books
should be able to evaluate your copy and give you some idea of its

Best regards,


Chateaubriand "'Genius of Christianity" 1856
Chateaubriand "'Genius of Christianity" "1st edition"
Chateaubriand "'Genius of Christianity" "first edition"
Chateaubriand leather bound

Clarification of Answer by journalist-ga on 02 Jan 2004 22:00 PST
ADDENDUM:  I neglected to provide the link for the last listing.  It
is and I apologize for
the omission.

Best regards,

Clarification of Answer by journalist-ga on 04 Jan 2004 07:40 PST
Greetings Pdgiven:

The clipping might be of assistance in tracing the original owner of
the book.  You mentioned "damp marking" - does the book have any
mildew odor?  If you list the clergymen's names, I'll be happy to
search those to see if anything turns up.  The newspaper clipping
itself may be worth something as well, especially to ancestry buffs
should a name of their ancestor be on the the list.

Best regards,

Request for Answer Clarification by pdgiven-ga on 04 Jan 2004 15:07 PST
Hi again,
In answer to your 1st point, no, there is no odour of mildew from the book.

A sample from The passenge list clipping  follows:

LIST OF PASSENGERS.- Mrs and Miss Zamarn, Mr Zamarn and friend, Mr.
and Mrs. J. J. Morgan and child, Mrs. P. T. Barnum, two children, and
servant, Misses M. T. Wright, Graham, C.Roger, Mr. E. Roger,Miss M.
Genot, Miss Ashworth, Mr. and Mrs. W. Barton and child, Mr. and Mrs.
E. Froydreaux, Mr. and Mrs. E. H. Skenker, Miss Turnbull, Miss M.
Turnbull, Dr. A. Turnbull,Me?srs. A. Turnbull, G. W. Lord, Buchanan,
Ashworth, H. W. Wilkens, Mrs. Wilkens and two children, Mr. and Mrs.
G. M. Loming, Messrs. Lafustrie, A. Rutton,, G. Boyde, E.
Pinkcombe,E.Stewart etc., etc.

Rev. and Mrs. T. L. Cugles.......Rev. Mr. M'Laughlin, Rev. Mr.
Walsh.....Dr. Colagban..

I obviously don't know if the Doctorates are ones in Divinity!!! - but
it's possible!!

The list is much longer than this extract, however, it contains the
religious possibles.....the name P.T. Barnum is also an interesting
inclusion given the time period.

I can also tell you that the news clipping is from an english
newspaper - I don't know which -  but I can't figure out the ports of
departure and arrival - or even if the journey was East - West or West
- East.

Maybe this extra info will help!


Clarification of Answer by journalist-ga on 04 Jan 2004 16:54 PST
Rev. "Mr. M'Laughlin" turned up two hits that could be the same man:

Items from The Times of 1862
"Wednesday, May 7, 1862
Passengers From Bombay, &c.--
The following is a list of passengers by the Peninsular and Oriental
Company's steamship Ellora, Captain J. Kellock, which left Malta at 4
a.m. on the 30th ult., with the heavy portion of the Bombay and
Mauritius mails, and is expected at Southampton on Friday...Mr.
M'Laughlin, Mr. Cochrane and servant."

"Wed. Dec. 19, 1827- Vol. 1 # 25- p. 199
Married; On the 13th inst. by Dr. T.H. SKINNER, Mr. M'LAUGHLIN, to
Emeline WALLACE, all of this city."


"Rev. Mr. Walsh" turned up about 22 references - you may view them at


If you wanted to search for the ancestors of these men, you could try
a number of genealogy databases:
or you might want to ask additional questions regarding the genealogy
of these men.  Then, armed with a list of their living ancestors, you
could attempt contact with each to see if they knew if he had the book
"Genius of Christianity" - if the owner's name was in the book, it
would be easier to ascertain who might want to purchase it.

The fact that Mrs. P.T. Barnum (or any of the other names, for that
matter - you may want to have someone research them all) is on the
list may make the newspaper clipping worth something - Barnum
memorabilia collectors may be interested in that.  It appears as if
there are many ways you might reap financial rewards from your find!

Best regards,


"Rev. T. L. Cugles"
Rev. "T. L. Cugles"
"Rev. Mr. M'Laughlin"
Rev. "Mr. M'Laughlin"
"Rev. Mr. Walsh"
"Dr. Colagban"
Subject: Re: Follow up to antique religiuos texts
From: hlabadie-ga on 03 Jan 2004 05:34 PST
Your book could be worth a few hundred dollars. Examples from later
editions are priced from 150-250 USD. The provenance, if established,
might improve the price.


Subject: Re: Follow up to antique religiuos texts
From: pdgiven-ga on 03 Jan 2004 12:46 PST
Hi there1
The book is leather boung with embossed gilt figures and artwork; the
page edges are also gilded; there is some slight wear at the corners
but not much.  The edition is 1856 with translation by Charles I
White, D.D.; on the inside of the first cover sheet on the top
left-hand corner there is what seems to be the folowing:

C Rg

There is also some slight damp marking on some page margins but this
does not detract from the legibility or general good quality of the

INTERESTINGLY, I found within the leaves a clipping of a ship's
passenger list from a newspaper dated 1857,  I am at this stage
surmising that the original ownership of the book may be found within
- there are a couple of clergymen listed!  If this extra information
helps could you get back to me, please?

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