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Subject:
Fret buzz on acoustic basses
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: veloso-ga List Price: $4.00 |
Posted:
19 Jun 2002 11:55 PDT
Expires: 26 Jun 2002 11:55 PDT Question ID: 29298 |
I'm looking to buy an acoustic bass; I've only ever played electric before. I stopped at a guitar store and found one that I really liked, but if I played a note on the first few frets of the E string, there was a rather annoying fret buzz. This was the only trouble spot. I asked the salesman about this, who claimed that fret buzz comes with the territory, especially with lower-end instruments, and he tried to sell me a more expensive model. But I wasn't prepared to pay more, and except for the buzz, I really liked the one I picked out. My question is, can anything be done about acoustic bass fret buzz, or do I actually have to learn to live with it? |
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Re: Fret buzz on acoustic basses
From: caplan8293-ga on 19 Jun 2002 12:38 PDT |
I know that with acoustic guitars, fret buzz means that there is something wrong with the action and that it needs some minor repair. With guitars, any repair shops should be able to fix that problem for little cost. The architecture of an acoustic bass is similar to a guitar so one could assume that it could be fixed by adjusting the action or maybe filing the frets down a little. |
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Re: Fret buzz on acoustic basses
From: nikita-ga on 19 Jun 2002 12:51 PDT |
Hey, The salesman is right in a sense, you get what you pay for. Less care is put into making instruments sold at a lower price. However you don't (and shouldn't!) neccessarily have to pay more to have an instrument that doesn't buzz. Fret buzz occurs if the string is too close to the neck (usually at the first fret as you noticed). The height of the string is (usually) adjustable at two places, at the bridge and at the 'nut'. The point where the string comes in contact with the guitar is (again usually) detachable if you remove the strings, you can file it down to move the string closer to the neck or add a slim taper (or carve a new one) to move the string away from the neck. To stop buzzing, you would need to raise the string slightly at the 'nut' end. It is a fine balance to get it right thought, it's all too easy to move the string too far away or towards the neck (especially towards since it's harder to raise the string once it's lowered). If you feel comfortable enough doing this yourself then buy the guitar and fix the action yourself, just be careful though! Alternatively you could get somebody more experienced to do it, it varies how much they could charge you though. Ask away if you've any questions Jim |
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Re: Fret buzz on acoustic basses
From: randland-ga on 19 Jun 2002 13:22 PDT |
There could be several different reasons that you are having difficulties with Fret Buzz. Here are several scenarios: SYMPTOM String buzzes when played open, stops when fretted POSSIBLE CAUSE Slots in nut are too deep, strings are too close to the frets. REMEDY Replace nut or shim to add height. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYMPTOM Buzzes at one particular fret but disappears once you move to another POSSIBLE CAUSE Frets are not level. Loose or sprung fret. Hump in fingerboard. REMEDY Secure all loose frets, level and dress. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYMPTOM Buzzing occurs when strumming or picking aggressively, can be silenced when playing lightly. POSSIBLE CAUSE Insufficient relief in the neck. Action set too low for your style. Extra light gauge strings (low tension=larger vibration pattern). REMEDY Adjust truss rod. Use heavier strings. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYMPTOM Buzzes nearly everywhere even though it is set up properly, will often disappear if string is fretted hard and plucked softly. POSSIBLE CAUSE Frets may be worn out or too low. Repeated fret leveling will eventually render the frets so short that the string no longer breaks over the fret properly. REMEDY Replace frets. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYMPTOM Buzzes nearly everywhere all the time, strings touching frets in the center of the fingerboard. POSSIBLE CAUSE Could be a back bowed neck, truss rod may be way too tight. REMEDY Adjust truss rod. And there are countless other causes that can create a buzzing like sound which are not fret related. Tuners that rattle, loose braces, a loose truss rod nut, a truss rod vibrating inside the neck, pickup wiring and the dreaded buzz that is set off when a particular frequency is played. Information gathered from http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/Repairs2.htm#buzz |
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Re: Fret buzz on acoustic basses
From: waltre-ga on 21 Jun 2002 08:50 PDT |
Bear in mind, that when you change the action or setup of a bass, it changes its 'feel' when playing it. So if you fork out for the buzz, and change the action to combat it, you may not feel the same about the bass. The other comments outline the symptoms, but read this article about your situation: Epinions: "Avoid Fretbuzz When You Buy" [ http://www.epinions.com/inst-review-75BF-A4D9F54-39E147E5-prod1 ]. Epinions article "Eliminating bass fret buzz (and beyond)." [ http://www.epinions.com/content_6697029252 ], gives some detailed explanations of fret buzz. Or for specifics, try [ http://www.epinions.com/inst-fretbuzz ] to find a solution. i personally, would save for a warwick: http://www.warwickbass.com :) |
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Re: Fret buzz on acoustic basses
From: jbf777-ga on 17 Mar 2003 11:55 PST |
I've wondered the same thing. I've got an AXL Acoustic and had a Johnson. They're both bargain-basement jobs. They both buzz. It may be that acoustic basses in general tend to amplify noises more, but I don't know for sure. |
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