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Subject: Reasearching an oil painting
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Visual Arts
Asked by: pando-ga
List Price: $40.00
Posted: 06 Jan 2004 04:07 PST
Expires: 05 Feb 2004 04:07 PST
Question ID: 293606
My mother has an oil painting of sailing ships (probably 18th or 19th
Century) at anchor in dark moonlight. It is apparently categorised as
a "Seascape 1895" by an artist by the name of Donzetty / Donzetti /
Danzetta or something similar. I want to know more about the artist
and the picture, if possible.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 06 Jan 2004 06:52 PST
There was a 19th century French painter by the name of Donzel, another
named Donze, and a couple of 15th/16th cnetury Italian painters by the
name of Donzello.

There's also a 18th century Danzel.

But that's all I come up with.  

I'd be glad to direct you to databases where you can play around with
different letter combinations (with wildcard characters, truncation
tools, etc) to explore some possibilities, if that would be of
interest as an answer to your question.

But as it is, there don't appear to be any artists included in these
sources that match the names you have given in your question.

Clarification of Question by pando-ga on 06 Jan 2004 10:59 PST
Likely to be 18th Century artist, so Donzel & Donze sound promising.
I'll seek further clarification (visiting Mother) next week and will
get back to you. Meanwhile I'd be intersted in any info on above
artists. many thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 06 Jan 2004 17:50 PST
Hello Pando-ga,

Here's a link to a bit of info about Danzel, who was the only 18th
cent. artist among those I listed earlier:

http://search.famsf.org/4d.acgi$Record?43451&=list&=1&=&=And&=2&=0&=keywords&=Yes&=danzel%20&=&=&=Yes&=&=f

He looks to be an engranver, but perhaps he dabbled in oils as well.

Say Hi to mom.  Looking forward to hearing back from you.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by pando-ga on 16 Jan 2004 04:12 PST
I've visited my mother & inspected the painting
It's by L Donzette (possibly Donzetta), dated 1895

It's oil on wood, and on the back of the frame is the following
(frame-maker / framer?)

F Groditzky
Vergolder
Berlin
Orianenburger - Str No 7

I've taken a poor digital photo which I'll post shortly (when I've
worked out how to do it!)

Clarification of Question by pando-ga on 16 Jan 2004 04:14 PST
Thanks for your help, by the way, & Mom (Mum) sends best wishes!
Answer  
Subject: Re: Reasearching an oil painting
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 16 Jan 2004 09:28 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear Pando and Pando's mother, 

The frame gave him in! 

The painter you're looking for is Louis Douzette (1834 - 1924), a
North German post-Romantic painter, who specialised in sea themes and
moonlighted landscapes.

However, since the frame hint lit the fire, let's start with it.
Vergolder means in German a gilder (the one who covered the frame with
gold, probably). Oranienburger Str. 7 is at the heart of what used to
be the Jewish Quarter in Berlin. Almost none is left of the original
buildings, and of course, we could sadly assume that the fate of poor
Mr. Groditzky was not different than that of his fellow Berliner Jews.
There is actually a gallery over there, but they have no idea about
former owners.

But, when I searched "donzette berlin" in Google
(<://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Donzette+berlin>),
I found a site in German, whose original text dated from 1888, "Meyer
Koversationslexicon" (Meyer's Encyclopaedia):
"Donzette (spr. duhsätt), Louis, Maler, geb. 1834 zu Tribsees in.
Pommern, kam 1856 als Stubenmaler nach Berlin und war als solcher noch
fünf Iahre lang thätig. Nebenbei begann er Früchte, Blumen, kleine
Landschaften und Kopien nach Ruisdael zu malen, worin er so viel
Talent entwickelte, daß ihn der Land-schaftsmaler Eschke 1864 in sein
Atelier nahm. In demselben Iahr machte er eine Studienreife an die
Küste der Ostsee und nach Rügen sowie 1865 nach Schweden. So
entstanden nach seiner Rückkehr in. Berlin während der nächsten Iahre
eine Reihe von. Landschaften aus Skandinavien, darunter viele Wi.^
ter- und Mondscheinbilder, die durch ihre treffliche Stimmung und
feine Abtönung großen Beifall fanden und zu seiner Spezialität wurden.
Solche sind z. B..
ein Müllergehöft im Mondschein, die Mitternachtsonne bei Torneä, eine
Mondnacht im Winter, eine Dorf-schmiede im Winter, Landschaft bei
Söderhamn, die schwedische Küste im Mondschein. Später wandteer sich
wieder seinen heimatlichen Gegenden, insbeson-dere der Mark, zu und
schuf zahlreiche Landschaften, welche aber an Kraft der Stimmung seine
poetischen Mondscheinlandsch.aften nicht erreichen. "

SOURCE: Meyer Koversationslexicon (1888-1889), as uploaded to the
University of Ulm website,
<http://susi.e-technik.uni-ulm.de:8080/meyers/servlet/showSeite?ID=1050144903336&BandNr=1050049773634>,
now, if you read German, you might notice that there are many mistakes
in this text - but this is probably because of the conversion from old
German script to a scanned e-format).

The translation of the paragraph [My additions are in brackets] : 

Donzette (pronounced: duhsätt [and this will have importance in the
next parts of the answer...]), Louis, Painter. B. 1834 in Tribsees in
Pommern. Came to Berlin in 1856 and worked for 5 years as a room
painter. He begann to paint, at the same period, fruits, flowers,
small landscape and copies of Ruisdael [Jacob Ruisdael, a Baroc
painter, see <http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/ruisdael_jacob_van.html>].
He developed so much talent, that the landscape painter Esche
[Hermann, 1823-1900] took him to his atelier [studio] in 1864. In that
year, he travelled to the Baltic Shore, to the island of Rügen and to
Sweden in 1865. After he came back to Berlin in the following year, he
could present a series of landscape paintings from Scandinavia, among
them many winter and moon-shine paintings, whose accurate atmosphere
and subtle colour changes became very popular and became his
trademark. For example:
Miller's Dwellings in the Moonlight
Midday sun near Torneä 
Moon-night in winter 
Village Forge in Winter
Landscape near Söderhamn
The Swedish Coast in Moonlight 
Later he returned to his home origin areas, especially to the Mark
area and painted many landscape pieces. However, these did not reach
the atmosphere and voice of his moonlight landscape paintings".

Well, as I noted before, Meyer is a scanned copy, written in the old
German script, where "n" is easy to mix with "u". With the information
I had, and especially on the pronounciation of his name, I went to
look for Louis DOUZETTE.

In English, there is no much about him. The Fine Art Emporium
<http://www.fineartemporium.com/se-Douzette.htm> write that he
specialised in "Seascapes and Marine Art, Coastal Views, Harbor and
Moonlight Scenes, Landscapes"; and estimates the value of his works at
$750 a piece.

However, P4Sale site estimates his works much higher: 
http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:bx_YYRZRfPsJ:www.p4a.com/itemsummary/11011.htm+%22louis+douzette%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

An even higher figure is shown at circleline
<http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:uuGgOsRo_zcJ:www.circline.com/(idpjys3ldhk5ni2y14tpw145)/ProductSearch.aspx%3FdoPostSearch%3Dtrue%26OriginID%3D2023+%22louis+douzette%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8>
.

The fate of some of Douzette's works is unknown, as they have been
looted by the Nazis from the Jewish owners. For example, four
paintings, one of them by Douzette, wwere bought by a Finnish diplomat
in 1948, and never seen again (SOURCE: Finnland and Nazin Loot, p. 45
on Lost Art's Newsletter "Spoils of War" No. 8, May 2003
<http://www.lostart.de/nforum/spoilsofwar.php3?nummer=8>).

In addition, since Meyer leaves us in 1888, you may want to know that
Douzette was appointed to arts professorship in 1896, and lived in
Barth in Northern Germany for 30 years afterwards. He died there in
1924.

Sites in German:
Vineta-Museum in Barth <http://www.cmidesign.de/vineta/louis.htm>,
where he had an exhibition.

More from Vineta/Barth
<http://www.stadt-barth.de/geschichte/persoenlichkeiten.html>

Discover Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
-<http://www.entdeckemv.de/region_darss/themen_orte/kuenstler/douzette/douzette.htm>
(the German State where he was born, worked and lived, besides Berlin)

This discussion in German in "de.rec.kunst.misc" mentions also that
Douzette was of Huguenot origin
<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Louis+Douzette&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3D3A06EE.8F5270E3%40t-online.de&rnum=1>.

Books: 
Spätromantische Malerei an der Ostsee. Katalog zur Ausstellung im
Vineta-Museum Barth v. 28. 11. 2000 - 25. 2. 2001
From txt.de: http://www2.txt.de/Lukas/TXTSIArtikel/3-931836-57-6 
From the German Amazon:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3931836576/302-3801769-7401625
From FrauenBuch.de http://www.frauenbuch.de/htm/fb2930245.htm 
A catalogue of an exhibition of his works in the Barth Museum. 

Amazon.de (The German Amazon) offer another book, titled just "Louis Douzette" 
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3881320903/302-3801769-7401625 

I hope this answered your question. My journey began, as noted before,
with a search for the gilder; and from there, to a search of the known
name and "Berlin", and later, to a search for Louis Douzette
<://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Louis+Douzette>.

Please contact me if you need any further clarifications on my answer
before you tip/rate it.

Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 16 Jan 2004 09:30 PST
Dear Pando, 

I just noticed that two of my links are too long to be activated in
the text. If you would like to view it in the Google Cache, please
copy the full link and paste it in the address line of your browser.
pando-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Excellent & courteous - lots to explore

Comments  
Subject: Re: Reasearching an oil painting
From: pafalafa-ga on 16 Jan 2004 19:35 PST
 
Very nice art detective work here, politicalguru-ga.  Hat's off!
Subject: Re: Reasearching an oil painting
From: fp-ga on 17 Jan 2004 02:57 PST
 
Paintings by Douzette are also shown in the "Bildindex" of Foto Marburg:

http://www.bildindex.de/rx/apsisa.dll/registerinhalt?sid={76fd787a-a92e-4855-8f5f-67d4756bfa6e}&cnt=30501&rid=2&aid=*&query=+xdbpics%3Aalle%20+r1a_name%3A'D*'%20+r1a_name%3A"douzette,%20louis"%20%20+r1b_gatt%3A"tafelmalerei"&no=1&count=50&sort=no&rid=2#

Hope this link works. Click on the paintings for more detailed information.

Foto Marburg:
http://www.bildindex.de/
Subject: Re: Reasearching an oil painting
From: fp-ga on 18 Jan 2004 01:49 PST
 
Sorry about the link in my previous comment.

In the Bildarchiv (Foto Marburg)
http://www.bildindex.de/

go to the next page and type the name Douzette where it says "Suchen".
You well get results for Louis Douzette, as well as for Fritz Douzette:
Paintings and biographical information.
Subject: Re: Reasearching an oil painting
From: pando-ga on 20 Jan 2004 02:48 PST
 
Many, many thanks & well done - Mum is enthralled!

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