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Video compression & streaming video
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: spitfire-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
19 Jun 2002 15:39 PDT
Expires: 26 Jun 2002 15:39 PDT Question ID: 29425 |
I am working on the planning stages of a video history project that will aim to put interviews with WW2 veterans on-line. Our standard archival storage of interviews will be on DVD. The question is what are our options for putting interview content on-line? Understanding it will take a lot of money. As far as I can understand there are two key decisions: 1) How to compress the video from DVD (i.e. what format to compress it into) into something suitable for delivery over the web and 2) How to deliver the content. With the latter I am particularly interested in the cost/benefit difference between hosting & delivering the content through our own servers & bandwidth (all of which we would need to purchase) and using some streaming video service that might be out there. It is important that the material be as widely accessible as possible, and there may be several hundred of hours total video to deliver. This is a long term project so we wish to adopt standards that are most likely to stand the test of time and be transferable to new technologies. |
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Re: Video compression & streaming video
Answered By: runix-ga on 19 Jun 2002 16:05 PDT |
Spitfire: Definitly you have to use MPEG4: MPEG4 is the new standard, developed by the Moving Picture Experts Group (the group that developed MPEG2 DVD Encoding). MPEG4 was designed to "allow universal access to multimedia information" ( MPEG4 FAQ http://mpeg.telecomitalialab.com/faq/mp4-vid/mp4-vid.htm ). You can find an Overview of the MPEG4 standard here: http://mpeg.telecomitalialab.com/standards/mpeg-4/mpeg-4.htm Divx is a new video codec based on MPEG4 that I personally think has a great quality/size ratio. From the Divx page: " The DivX codec (short for compression-decompression) is based on the MPEG-4 compression standard. This codec is so advanced that it can reduce an MPEG-2 video (the same format used for DVD or Pay-Per-View) to ten percent of its original size. Video on regular VHS tapes can be reduced to about one hundredth of their original size. " ( http://www.divx.com/support/what.php ) There are free Divx players for almost every OS (Unixes, Windows, Mac, etc). Also, there's a free version of the encoder that finances itself thru ads or a 30$ version. ( http://www.divx.com/divx/ ) You can see some Divx samples here: http://www.divx.com/showcase/ You will have to download the player before playing the samples from: http://www.divx.com/divx/ Additional links: Mplayer, a Divx player for Linux and other unixes: (free, open source) http://www.mplayerhq.hu FFmpeg can encode a video stream to Divx to be broadcasted (free, open source) http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ The official Windows Divx player and encoder http://www.divx.com/divx/ Mac Divx codec http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/ FlaskMpeg can encode a video to Divx (free, open source) http://www.flaskmpeg.net/ Good luck! |
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Re: Video compression & streaming video
From: wengland-ga on 20 Jun 2002 11:26 PDT |
Divx and MPEG-4 are fine solutions for some things. Neither is a final standard yet, and using either one is asking for trouble for archival video. However, for a more professionsal solution for streaming video off of the web, I would strongly suggest using Quicktime from Apple. They have the oldest, most robust and strongest solutions. Matter of fact, the MPEG-4 standard is baseo on the Quicktime product. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ |
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Re: Video compression & streaming video
From: runix-ga on 20 Jun 2002 13:32 PDT |
Im not sure if they care about this, but Quicktime is only available for Windows and Mac.... (There's no QT for Unixes :( ) |
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Re: Video compression & streaming video
From: simontocker-ga on 21 Jun 2002 06:18 PDT |
Im researching the whole video streaming for corporate solution, it is a nightmare. Loads of people shout DivX is great, and Quictime is Mpeg4, true Version 1 or 2. The latest MPEG4 codec is Version three, this gives an excellent compression for low bitrate. Microsoft own V3. If you want the best, and DivX is great but the later CBR 2-pass utils in MS tools are out performing DivX. If you have a lot of money to spend as this is going to make money, then you need to go with a major play. Real - ubiquitous streaming software, almost everyone has the free player installed if they use the internet and it can be easily installed (not on corporate lock don machines!) Real 8 can embed multiple encoded streams so if network traffic is bad it can opt to view the lower bit rate. MSMedia Service - MS use Mpeg4v3 in there latests Codecs, they have the money to spend at constantly improving the technology and are demonstrating that they are doing exactly that, the next release V9 (Corona) promises even better results. It can also do multiple bit rate encoding when the network starts to suffer. Lets face it its going to happen network congestion on the web is a problem where video is concerned. Quicktime. Has been around for ages, cant say I have seen many uses as a streaming format, as a bursted (ie download direct to player) solution I have seen that a lot and have been impressed by the quality. Proprietry solutions I looked at CISCO IP/TV, can handle mpeg-1, mpeg-2, and mpeg-4 needs IPTV viewer. Appears Aimed at internal streaming more than internet streaming on high bandwith. VBRICK Again aimed at internal streaming for organisations, has own viewer. Also has Internet option a transcoder box for taking DVDMPEG-2 converting to Windows Media (possibly other). My personal opinion of this, is that the internet has a huge Microsoft platform user base, acedemics and journalists use linux and macs, neither have any money ;-) Figure out your user base ? if its predominantly Windows then each client will most likely have Windows media player 6.4+ installed. Any streaming solution that does not require yet another client to view video will have an edge. If you can use the pre-installed player then that gives whichever solution can stream in a format that the player can easily play has an edge. For the Web you are looking at Real or Windows Media as they are continuing to plow lots of money into research, others may be doing this but where is the evidence. *All infomartion is a result of personal experience, use at own risk. Mistakes may appear in this information and full verification should be taken before acting on any information given. |
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Re: Video compression & streaming video
From: smk00-ga on 09 Mar 2005 08:57 PST |
Divx and MPEG-4 would be ideal for this type of solution providing bandwidth would not be to minimal. Divx codec players are universal and will play on most platforms. Unix/Linux/MAC/Microsoft Quick time will limit your audience. Personally I very much enjoy Divx as it is of excellent picture quality, works on all players (with some tuning on some/ updating codecs) and video compression ratio is ideal. Many full length DVD "quality" movies can run around the 700MB size mark! |
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