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Subject:
gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: apteryx-ga List Price: $4.16 |
Posted:
11 Jan 2004 00:19 PST
Expires: 10 Feb 2004 00:19 PST Question ID: 295228 |
I am wondering about the spam messages produced by a certain kind of randomizing process. This is a follow-on to my question at http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=292826 which was answered by aceresearcher. This time out I am not asking about the word lists or about the use of them in conjunction with randomizing algorithms; I understand well enough how pseudo-random number generators work. What I want to know now is--when I receive a spam message with a heading like this inside the message (not in the subject line): Free CableTV!No more pay! why does the rest of the message body consist of nothing but a list of words that looks like this? gauss dump cyanic corduroy plan btl logic arching affectionate ciceronian sudden caucasian superior equipoise torrent psychosomatic superposable condense teeter mailmen horsefly huckleberry mouse guiana frozen glutamic nag virgo circulant spine shade meal shmuel flatland lew discriminatory mauricio croix coeditor clove sproul armada balance erotic everlasting sectoral overhang cardinal coalition yoghurt tremendous anecdotal childbirth eventide librarian mum shutout volkswagen dare carroll tuscan bushnell mean secondhand monitory stillbirth brucellosis headland agave chartres bazaar watanabe biddable consignee centipede scarlatti kovacs pursuant abscissae duchess onlook derogate mahayanist involutory confiscatory aeschylus chance finitary breed soluble arrogant entity calgary cater crosslink arsenal twitch curiosity dispel handset negligent dreamlike downturn chirp inman barefaced circulatory crest mesopotamia pub bonanza assai addison suntanned brazier rooftree abbreviate bufflehead coplanar ababa mr stagnant conjunct manure debauchery gresham perchlorate pion scorpio purposive graves cyanide shivery rear buxton fischbein bestir biaxial broken kosher inappropriate residential presbytery colatitude penultimate loose provincial cancel alphabetic derisive ellipsoidal stop goat rest casualty presuppose beriberi rickety stayed chinook admit worn raman warsaw abram dragonhead priestley beer bryophyta benny bluestocking cuddle dunlap disgruntle applause wood atonal besiege police voice excretion secretive twirly homebuilder force sara ledge schnapps redstone migratory confidante cavendish tagging gratuity josephus coarse meat resist splat roister sultanate ashore malicious different cayley affricate aorta niacin bashaw survivor gubernatorial bearberry alternate kenyon dwight bullfinch cattlemen beside configuration bladderwort tuscany rheumatism bliss anguish ak priori artie grammatic martyr morbid descriptor burgess astound require than mustachio accession gogo and obedient drug quarry cloudy array conformation perkins caldwell catastrophe metallurgy coincidental concessionaire canaveral stolen resurgent fortieth insupportable crater horowitz estella patricia scylla variac dereference nymph irate chieftain elastic susanne capacitor jackanapes silicon spruce coercion condominium cowan irreconcilable liaison beta locution flour chalcocite What *is* that? Why is it in the message? What conceivable purpose does it serve? That, in addition to the line about free cable, is all there is--no advertiser, no contact information, nothing. Why is someone bothering to send out messages like this? I have received a lot of them. Is something else going on here besides the appearance of trying to sell something--which can't be genuine if there is no way to respond to a product offer? (Not that I would ever respond to a product offered through spam--but somebody must, or those guys would give up--wouldn't they?) Curiosity is biting me and leaving painful little itchy spots. Thank you, Apteryx | |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: mathtalk-ga on 11 Jan 2004 00:35 PST |
While I've never received one that falls in this category, I'd guess the notion, however inept, is that a jumble of random words will tend to confuse/bypass spam blocking programs on many servers/mail clients. More strange, to my mind, is the poor spelling in spam messages, even in the portions which are not meant to be random letter jumbles. The random letter jumbles, one might suppose, serve to help identify (and credit?) an outgoing mailing service upon the "success" of replies. The only purpose I can imagine in the use of poor spelling (and grammar, etc.) is perhaps to create a psychology of "taking advantage" of an ignorant seller who purports to have low prices on drugs, printer cartridges, etc. While it doesn't appeal to me, perhaps those who've done this sort of thing for years have established by trial and error that this is a reliable approach. Or, maybe they just don't know any better. regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: antonh-ga on 11 Jan 2004 03:58 PST |
There is this piece of software avalable which creates "spam harvest" lists to annoy spammers called "toxic" which is available I think from www.cexx.org It's intended purpose is I think as a bit of fun to annoy the spammers "robot harvesters" with included embedded email hyperlinks. It works by generating an .HTM (web page) which the user can upload to a "Free" web host to sit there for eternity. It COULD be the "Robot" which is usually sitting on the floor developed a small problem in the script (Oops) and is emailing the page words out? Bear in mid the file below and a quick scan do not match the words mentioned so I assuming it's a similar program and not the same. It generates a page almost Exactly as decribed upon just exececuting it on my pc it generated (cut to a few lines) as a random scan based in a "dictionary file" Slough by Mobil starving moment because racist rotten petit merge multinational because eating misled stewardess. Time inns fad intellectually for cubes tern the modeled county liberation alley Tim petit but lessens but measure instructor by rebuilding slowest guerrillas afloat. Maul, substantially, Nathan underestimate hugged effects. Me unreasonable? Strenuous downloaded tactics in. Rocker by unleashed haunted Donald in trophy highly in factor immunity curved draughts or deepest polio? Strategic with ideals slowest low-cost pains outlying starving cymbals stingy defect interstate Turner styles inevitably repeated subject! Eating minivans or unattractive Beverly, reconcile irresponsible applying insulated relive immense mousse likes, ass tile, and incumbents an, dizzying lied broadcasts sowing represent. Drawing worthwhile experiments humiliating validate and dominate pair and read for dispose because Utah Hope it clears well something or did it just confuse even more?.. Anton. |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: antonh-ga on 11 Jan 2004 04:02 PST |
The weirest thing, I opened the .DIC file and was able to replace it with the "http://tinyurl.com/33c8m" contents and use it to generate files as per your question using the keywords supplied.. Good luck! |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: apteryx-ga on 11 Jan 2004 12:01 PST |
Antonh, would you please say that again? I don't quite understand what you did. What .DIC file? The TinyURL you gave is the one that was in my prior question, yes--but what was it that you did with it, and what result did you get? Please use a few more words to explain because I didn't read everything that was between the lines. I like the idea of annoying the spammers. Junk mail was never like this. If there's a way to fight back, even if only by gumming the works, I think people should spread the word. Mathtalk, I don't know, I'm only guessing, but I find that nearly 100% of these messages come from places abroad, some Asian and some European, and I just assumed that the poor English was the work of non-native English speakers. I received a couple of messages that have this: %RND_UC_CHAR[2-8] where the others have the jumbles (such as this: ZSYYXYQ and this: ROTM) and figure someone messed up with a delimiter, so I'm seeing the code instead of the output. But even the ones that seem to be "all right" (inferring a standard from the majority) and actually have an ad graphic in them also have a bale of words like the cited example at the bottom. Thanks for all comments-- Apteryx |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: pinkfreud-ga on 11 Jan 2004 15:38 PST |
>> Curiosity is biting me and leaving painful little itchy spots. This uncomfortable condition is sometimes caused by rapid intellectual expansion, which can cause mental stretch marks. For the itchy areas, I recommend the use of callow-mind lotion. ;-) |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: apteryx-ga on 11 Jan 2004 22:15 PST |
Ah. Apply the pink stuff. I'll try that. Apteryx |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: aht-ga on 11 Jan 2004 23:58 PST |
Hi apteryx! Here's a short thread that might shed some more light on this for you... or serve to confuse the issue more... http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2003-December/053930.html Basically, someone in the spam software industry came up with the novel idea that 'padding' an otherwise spam message with "valid", non-spam-like words, would help the spam get past the Bayesian filters used by systems such as Spam Assassin. Only problem is, the self-learning capabilities of the filters make this a very hit and miss approach. The filters will learn to either ignore the extra text, or score that text poorly as well. Coupled with the machine-gun e-mailing technique of sending millions of copies of any one spam message, though, and you'll still get enough copies through to make it worthwhile. Sigh... the spam wars continue... aht-ga |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: aht-ga on 13 Jan 2004 14:38 PST |
apteryx-ga: How timely! Wired News: Random Acts of Spamness http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,61886,00.html/wn_ascii aht-ga Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: pinkfreud-ga on 13 Jan 2004 14:49 PST |
I get quite a few Bayes-buster spammages. They usually don't fool my anti-spam program. But sometimes the long strings of unrelated words are rather amusing, like some kind of surrealist poetry. |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: pinkfreud-ga on 13 Jan 2004 18:42 PST |
Apteryx, I heartily suggest that the prize should go to my colleague aht-ga (who, IMHO, is one of the best Researchers on GA.) I have the January issue of "Wired," and I hadn't even noticed the "Random Acts of Spamness" article. A tip of the pink hat to aht (hey, I just noticed that hat and aht are anagrams of each other. Neat-O.) ~Pink |
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Re: gauss dump cyanic corduroy: random word lists
From: aht-ga on 11 Feb 2004 22:03 PST |
apteryx-ga: I'm sorry that I never did come back to this thread in time to see your offer that I post an Answer. I'm happy that my comments were on the mark this time, and will continue to provide input whenever I can to your always intriguing questions! Best wishes, aht-ga Google Answers Researchers |
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