I have purchased 3 container of pvc water pipe scrap from a company
in Hong Kong "Win Success Int'l Ltd" for which we have send them
us$ 10800 by bank transfer.After two month, the company is not making
any shipment not replying to our telephones and faxes.when I call them
some one talk in chinese which I cannot understand and they cannot understand
my english. The sales manager Mr.Jonathan or any other who speak english
is not responding and I am on the firm believe that the said comapny has
made a fraud with us otherwise they should have replied to us as two month
has been passed and the comapny is totaly not responding since 4 to 6 weeks.
Unfortunitly, we have lost all of our correspndance due to problem in our
computer but we have bank receipt which can prove our payment.
telephone number of "Win Success Int'l Ltd" is (852) 2649-1475 and fax
(852) 2649-1476.
will anyone guide or help us to recover our amount. |
Request for Question Clarification by
pafalafa-ga
on
11 Jan 2004 19:12 PST
You might want to try contacting these folks in Hong Kong:
http://www.consumer.org.hk/mainmenu/english/eindex.htm
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Consumer Council of Hong Kong
When consumers come across unfair trade practices, e.g .
goods or services not correspond to description;
delay in delivery;
dissatisfaction to service,
Having negotiated with the providers in vain,
consumers are welcome to lodge your complaint with the Consumer Council.
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Towards the bottom of the page, on the right hand side, is a small
hard-to-notice link to an on-line form for filing your complaint.
Phone, fax and mailing information are also provided.
Best of luck.
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Clarification of Question by
ijazahmad-ga
on
15 Jan 2004 10:34 PST
I have increaed price of my question.
I also want to know that can I companin this matter
to police in Hong Kong? What is the name and address
of the chief of the police to whome I should make such
a complaint.
I will be more gratefull,If anyone from Hong Kong will
also reply to this request.
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Request for Question Clarification by
darrel-ga
on
21 Jan 2004 13:07 PST
In which country, province or state are you located?
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Clarification of Question by
ijazahmad-ga
on
22 Jan 2004 09:40 PST
I am located in Lahore-PAKISTAN
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ijazahmad--
I have carefully researched your question and have some answers for you.
First, I conducted a Google search for the Hong Kong Police
Department. I used the following search terms: "hong kong" "police
department"
You may view the results of my search online. The link is
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22hong+kong%22+%22police+department%22
The contact information for the Commissioner of police in Hong Kong
is: Mr. Tsang Yam Pui. The phone number listed is 2527 7177.
The Deputy Commissioner of Operations (DCP Ops) is Mr. Lee Ming Kwai, Dick.
The Deputy Commissioner of Management (DCP Man) is Mr. Fung Siu Yuen, Gordon.
The deputy commissioners list the same contact informatio nas the
Commissioner of Police does.
You may view this information online. One link is
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/aa-home/english/org/org.htm
Another page with this information is
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/aa-home/english/org/org.htm
To file a police report in Hong Kong, you may do so through the Hong
Kong Police Department Central Division. The phone number to this
office is: 2522 8882. The fax number to this office is: 2234 9871.
You might also decide to contact on the Hong Kong Police Department's
hotline phone numbers. I would first contact the Hong Kong Police
Department's Commercial and Technology Crime Hotline. The phone number
to that office is 2860 5012. The fax number to that office is 2860
5013.
Below are some of the other Hong Kong Police Department hotline phone
numbers that you may find useful. You may also view a more complete
list at the bottom of a web site. The link is
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/aa-home/english/home-e.htm
Organised Crime and Triad Hotline 2527 7887
Narcotics Bureau Hotline 2860 2888 2527 1234
Further, I found a place you may file a report online. The link is
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/aa-home/english/home-e.htm
Next, I conducted a Google search for more information about the
Commissioner of Police using the following terms: "hong kong" "police
department" "Tsang Yam Pui"
You may view the results of my search online. The link is
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22hong+kong%22+%22police+department%22+%22Tsang+Yam+Pui%22
Next, I conducted a Google search for an official Hong Kong fraud
organization to which you might be able to seek help. I searched the
following terms: "hong kong" fraud organization
You may view the results of my search online. The link is
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22hong+kong%22+fraud+organization
The most promising group I found that can help you is the ICAC in Hong
Kong. This organization investigates fraud and fights for legislation
to stop crime like the one you've apparently been a victim of.
The Independent Commission Against Corruption was established in
February 1974 to fight corruption in both the public and the private
sectors. The ICAC track record has clearly demonstrated the
Commission's commitment to controlling corruption in Hong Kong. With
the support of the community, the ICAC has continuously met public
expectations of an accountable, transparent and open organization.
The ICAC says, "Members of the public can make enquiries or lodge
corruption complaints in person or by phone to the ICAC Report Centre
which operates round the clock."
You may file an official complaint with them via their report hotline.
The phone number is 25 266 366. The address for the ICAC is: G/F,
Murray Road Car Park Building, 2 Murray Road, Central, Hong Kong
You may read more about this agency online. The link is
http://www.icac.org.hk/eng/main/
I also located a slew of other international anti-fraud groups you may
contact that can go after this company, help get your money back or
acquire your purchase for you. Below is the list of these agencies.
ADB/OECD Anti-Corruption Initiative for Asia-Pacific
The objective of this initiative is to help countries of the region
that wish to do so to build effective anticorruption mechanisms and to
lay the foundations for the sustained fight against corruption. The
link to this agency's web site is http://www1.oecd.org/daf/ASIAcom/
Asia/Pacific Group on Money Laundering (APG)
APG facilitates adoption, implementation, and enforcement of
internationally accepted anti-money laundering standards, including
assisting jurisdictions to enact laws, confiscation, forfeiture, and
extradition. APG also provides guidance in setting up systems for
reporting and investigating suspicious transactions and helping in the
establishment of financial intelligence units. The link to this
organization's web site is http://www.apgml.org/
Group of States Against Corruption (GRECO)
Evaluates through a dynamic process of peer pressure, the compliance
with undertakings contained in the legal instruments of the Council of
Europe to fighting against corruption. The link to this group is
http://www.greco.coe.int/
United Nations Crime And Justice Information Network
UNCJIN is an electronic clearing-house of the culmination of several
years of incremental efforts coordinated by the United Nations Centre
for International Crime Prevention, Vienna. The link to this group's
site is http://www.uncjin.org/
Anti Money Laundering Office ? Thailand
AMLO serves as the Financial Intelligence Unit for law enforcement
agencies in Thailand, collecting and analyzing reports by financial
institutions and other information to identify subjects for
investigation. AMLO also represents Thailand at international forums
concerning money laundering. The link to this group's web site is
http://www.amlo.go.th/Eng/index.htm
I conducted several detailed searches to try to find significant
information about Win Success International.
One of the searches I conducted was a Google search. It turned up a
few web sites that may be of interest. I searched the following terms:
"Win Success International"
You may view the results of my search online. The link is
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Win+Success+International%22
In one search the company turned up in a list of investment companies.
You may view that list online. The link is
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:vQGdXySIGhkJ:www.manivest-offshore.com/index/list/HKShelflist.doc+%22Win+Success+International%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
I hope this helps and wish you the best. If you need further
information or any clarification to my answer, please don't hesitate
to click on the "clarify" button.
darrel-ga |
Request for Answer Clarification by
ijazahmad-ga
on
22 Jan 2004 21:45 PST
Dear Darell
I need mailing address of all the organisation you have
suggested?
Secondly,is commissioner of police is highest rank in
police department in hong kong?
Regards
Ijaz Ahmad
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Clarification of Answer by
darrel-ga
on
23 Jan 2004 05:22 PST
Yes, the commissioner of Police is the highest ranking police officer in Hong Kong.
Below are the addresses.
ICAC
Office of the Commissioner
25th Floor, Fairmont House
8 Cotton Tree Drive, Hong Kong
Fax: 2810 8956
Anti-Corruption Initiative for Asia-Pacific
Mr. Jak Jabes
Director
P.O. Box 789
0980 Manila
Philippines
Fax: +63 (0)2 632 21 82
Secrétariat du Groupe d'Etats contre la corruption
Direction Générale des Affaires Juridiques
Conseil de l?Europe
F-67075 Strasbourg Cedex
Tel : + 33 3 88 41 21 35
Fax : + 33 3 90 21 51 31
E-mail : webmaster.greco@coe.int
Centre for International Crime Prevention,
Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention
P.O. Box 500, A-1400 Vienna AUSTRIA
Anti-Money Laundering Office
422 Phayathai Road
Patumwan District
Bangkok 10330 Thailand
darrel-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ijazahmad-ga
on
23 Jan 2004 06:19 PST
I am unable to undersatnd, how undermentioned organisation
can help us.
In Manila the organisation mentioned is for anti-corruption
wheae as our case will not come under anti corruption. Similarly
Crime Prevention center is in viena and it is spacially for
drugs. Another organisation mentioned is Anti-Money Laundering
in Bangkok and I do not think that our case is of money laundering.
Therefore, I request the valued resercher to remine their reply
according to our case.
I also wish to know, whether police will take our case while I am
in Pakistan?Will I go to hong kong to register my case with police?
Do I need to hire a lawyer? If yes how much lawyer will cost? Is their
is another way from which I can get quick results? and without spending
more amount on recovery?
Regards
Ijaz Ahmad
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Clarification of Answer by
darrel-ga
on
23 Jan 2004 07:05 PST
Ijazahmad--
These agencies are the most likely to help you. Of course, there's no
guarantee that they'll take your case. But my guess is that with the
high-dollar amount about which we're talking that they'll have an
interest.
I provided a listing of any agency that would have the greatest
likelihood of helping you.
The Hong Kong Department of Police is the correct office to file your
main complaint. You don't need to physically go to the Hong Kong
Police Department to file your complaint. You may simply file it
online at the above web site. Or you may fax the information. Perhaps
the easiest way is to place a call to the Police Hotlines. That's
where I would start.
Yes, you may wish to hire an attorney and it may be worth your while
in this case. The prices of attorneys will vary significantly from a
couple hundred dollars to thousands of dollars. You may even be able
to find an attorney to take on your case pro bono.
I hope this helps,
darrel-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ijazahmad-ga
on
16 Feb 2004 10:09 PST
You have mentioned us address of various agencies from which only
police of Hong Kong is concern to my problem. But I regret you have
given me wrong name and address of commissioner of police of hong kong
as at website "http://tel.directory.gov.hk/HKPF_ENG.html" name of
commissioner of police is "Mr. LEE Ming Kwai" with telephone number
2860 2001. The address mentioned at the same page is also different to
the address mentioned by you.The page mentioned above is last updated
on
16/02/2004 as mentioned at this site.
Now,as your answer is not correct therefore you are not eligble
to charge amount for this reply.Please comment and if agreed ask the editor
not to pay you for this answer.
Thanks and regards
Ijaz Ahmad
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Clarification of Answer by
darrel-ga
on
16 Feb 2004 12:23 PST
I did give that name as a commissioner....
"The Deputy Commissioner of Operations (DCP Ops) is Mr. Lee Ming Kwai, Dick.
The Deputy Commissioner of Management (DCP Man) is Mr. Fung Siu Yuen, Gordon."
If you need any further clarification, please let me know.
Thanks,
darrel-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ijazahmad-ga
on
16 Feb 2004 23:15 PST
Thanks for your clarification but we regret you do not agree with
you as your all informations regarding hong kong police are not correct.
You can check link mentioned by me for confirmation.
Regards
Ijaz Ahmad
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Clarification of Answer by
darrel-ga
on
17 Feb 2004 12:57 PST
Ijazahmad--
I guess I'm unclear as to what you said was incorrect.
The information for Mr. Lee Ming Kwai, Dick, was on the link I provided.
Could you clarify? I'd be happy to help fix this error for you.
darrel-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ijazahmad-ga
on
17 Feb 2004 20:57 PST
Thanks for your reply.
After the discussing with you what I need was details of
police commissioner. But the details mentioned by you including
name,address,telephone and fax number of commissioner of police
were all wrong. You can see the correct details of commissioner of
police at at "http://tel.directory.gov.hk/HKPF_ENG.html".
Now I, do not need any more clarification and have already request
editor for refund to my amount. Therefore you are requested to please
accept this mistake and ask the editor to refund my amount.
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Clarification of Answer by
darrel-ga
on
18 Feb 2004 07:22 PST
Ijazahmad--
I am certainly sorry you feel as though I haven't answered the
question effectively. I will do as you've instructed. Please let me
know if you need any other information.
darrel-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ijazahmad-ga
on
18 Feb 2004 09:46 PST
Many thanks for your reply and I am sure to contact you
if I need any more help.
Thanks and Regards
Ijaz Ahmad
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Clarification of Answer by
darrel-ga
on
18 Feb 2004 09:53 PST
Thank you.
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