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| Subject:
Property dispute over retaining wall
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: lmbh-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
11 Jan 2004 13:29 PST
Expires: 10 Feb 2004 13:29 PST Question ID: 295361 |
We have a short retaining wall separating our property from our neighbor's (concrete block, about 3 feet high). Our property is higher than their's. The wall is tilting over onto their property. According to the property survey stakes the wall is clearly on their property, although in it's original, upright condition the line may have run along the center of the wall. They want us to fix the wall. We don't want to. It's behind our garage and we can't even see it. If they remove the wall and don't put another back, it may undermine the foundation of our garage. Who is legally responsible for the wall? |
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| Subject:
Re: Property dispute over retaining wall
From: hlabadie-ga on 11 Jan 2004 20:26 PST |
There are too many unknown variables. Any Answer would have to take into account local ordinances where you live, deed restrictions, easements, covenants, who built the wall originally, permits issued, etc. hlabadie-ga |
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Re: Property dispute over retaining wall
From: stressedmum-ga on 12 Jan 2004 00:11 PST |
Without knowing the ordinances, etc, here are some observations ... If the wall was established directly between the two properties then doesn't that mean that you should each have a 50 percent interest in maintaining it? And yet, bear in mind that if the land that the wall is retaining is, in fact, your land and subsidence of your land or the weight of your garage or whatever has caused the retaining wall to lean over into their property, then isn't that something for which you should be responsible? Even if you can't see the wall, you still have a vested interest in its functionality (i.e. your garage) so it's in your better interest to do the thing that keeps your garage intact, allows your neighbour some reassurance that your garage and backyard are not going to collapse into their place and to know that what goes around comes around. At the very least, a 50/50 arrangement seems fair -- I know I'd be pretty peeved if the retaining wall supporting my neighbour's garage was threatening to land in my backyard and they wouldn't accept responsibility. Why not give yourself the satisfaction of knowing you've done the right thing by everyone, including yourself, and work *with* your neighbour to provide a safe retaining wall for both of you. Win, win all around, I would have thought. |
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Re: Property dispute over retaining wall
From: cynthia-ga on 12 Jan 2004 02:34 PST |
lmbh, You say you have a short retaining wall. Does it only run a short -straight- length, or does a __matching__ wall turn 90 degrees and extend alongside your property, leading towards your house and the street? Does it do this on both sides? Or, does the matching wall lead towards their property? I had a similar situation with my neighbor while I resided in Las Vegas. I did some research and found that I was responsible. I had a tree that when young posed no problem, but as the base of the palm tree grew, it was pushing the wall onto my neighbors property. I found that anything that was originally my property, which over time encroached on my neighbors property, in essence, became theirs. Same as a tree's branches, they could legally cut the branches hanging over their "air-space" if I failed to trim them back. I also had visible survey stakes in view of my wall. The majority of the wall was on MY property. It matched the rest of the wall surrounding my property. If I was negligent, they could take action and remove the portion of my wall that was encroaching on their property. That was my experience in Las Vegas though, and things are likely to be different in your location. I would go to the city permit office where you live and find out who originally built the wall(if you can't tell by looking at it). That at least will determine a portion of responsibility. Regardless, if the wall is in the center of the survey line, I think you have a good case for splitting the cost. Armed with the permit information, and anything the city can tell you, I recommend going to your local Yellow Pages and getting one of those free 1/2 hour consultations with a local attorney. You can get some great advice and kinow how to proceed from there. ~~Cynthia |
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