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pinetum: greek or roman literary or mythical place
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: birchpole-ga List Price: $6.00 |
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20 Jun 2002 11:00 PDT
Expires: 27 Jun 2002 11:00 PDT Question ID: 29837 |
I am researching the history of pineta. On pages 666-667 of the 1867 publication, _Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology_, edited by William Smith, there is a reference to a literary character named Rufinus (or, "Tyrannius or Turranius or Toranus, as the name is variously written") who returned to a place known as Pinetum. Several of the other places mentioned in this bio are legitimate, real places: Syria, Jerusalem, Italy, etc. I'd like to learn if Pinetum is a place that either actually existed or exists and where that is and perhaps some details about how it received its name. I believe the first published use of the term "pinetum" comes from the 1839 publication _Pinetum Woburnense_ by James Forbes. I am also aware of later publications by George Gordon and John Claudius Loudon which mention pineta. |
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Re: pinetum: greek or roman literary or mythical place
Answered By: morris-ga on 20 Jun 2002 11:23 PDT Rated: |
Birchpole, Pinetum was an Italian monastery where Rufinus Tyrannius stayed. Quoting from his biography on the 1911 Encyclopedia site at: http://100.1911encyclopedia.org/R/RU/RUFINUS_TYRANNIUS.htm "In 408 we find Rufinus at the monastery of Pinetum (in the Campagna?); thence he was driven by the arrival of Alaric to Sicily, being accompanied by Melania in his flight." On the Institute for Korean Thoelogical Information I found a further refining of the location: http://www.iktinos.org/classics/npnf2-03/npnf2-03-30.htm "Rufinus stopped at the monastery of Pinetum near Terracina. His welcome by the Abbot Urseius and the philosopher Macarius, and their request to him to translate various Greek books..." Both of these sites offer much more detailed information about the man and his travels. Google Search Terms pinetum Rufinus pineta I hope you find this information useful. | |
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birchpole-ga
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Answer is on point as to whether or not it is an actual place, but unresponsive as to how it received its name. In all fairness, I said that I would perhaps like these details, so, it's a good answer, but it would have been great with that little extra. I'll need to find out the rest on my own or submit another question. |
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Re: pinetum: greek or roman literary or mythical place
From: morris-ga on 20 Jun 2002 11:48 PDT |
Birchpole, It was apparently named for the famous pine grove (pineta) that stretched along the Italian coast in those days. SOrry I forgot to include it in the answer. morris-ga |
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Re: pinetum: greek or roman literary or mythical place
From: rhansenne-ga on 20 Jun 2002 11:51 PDT |
Pinetum is indeed the Greek word for pine wood. http://www.e2ni.com/~latingreek/latin/p.htm rhansenne-ga |
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Re: pinetum: greek or roman literary or mythical place
From: fugitive-ga on 20 Jun 2002 12:19 PDT |
Here's a cool modern coincidence: there is a modern (new construction?) village in the Italian province of Campania (see Naples) called "Pinetamare." Campagna - pinetum Campania - Pinetamare And I think that Terracina is to the north of Pinetamare. Nearby Pinetamare are the ancient ruins of the Sybil of Cuma. These ruins are considered Greek ruins as part of the Greek colonization of the southern part of the Italian peninsula, commonly called Magna Grecia. You can see some nice pictures of Cuma at: http://www.archart.it/archart/italia/campania/cuma/cuma.htm I think the trees that look like umbrellas in the photos at the site above are the pine trees referred to by morris-ga. They're still all over the place. Just an incorrigible Italophile! fugitive-ga |
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