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Subject: Trying to establish if a company exists
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: ono62931-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 25 Jan 2004 19:18 PST
Expires: 24 Feb 2004 19:18 PST
Question ID: 300174
Is there an Escrow company "Safer Business.Com" at 1010 E. Mabel
Street, Tuscon, Az 85719.  This co with home office in Austria
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Subject: Re: Trying to establish if a company exists
Answered By: bobbie7-ga on 25 Jan 2004 20:43 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello ono62931,


The address 1010 E. Mabel Street, Tucson, AZ 85719, is an apartment complex. 

University Park Apartments
1010 E Mabel St 
Tucson, AZ 85719 
520-623-9975
http://www.aztucson.com/apartme.html
http://www.yellowpagestucson.com/business/28220/309/Apartments-14.html

The apartment complex, University Park Apartments, is on 1010 E. Mabel
St, 3 minute walking distance to the UA campus.
://www.google.com/search?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=%22University+Park+Apartments%22+1010+E+Mabel+St&btnG=B%C3%BAsqueda+en+Google&lr=



I did further research on this company and Safer-business appears to
be a fraudulent Escrow Company for the reasons I will list below.


CarBuyingTips.com provides a Consumer Guide to Avoiding Escrow
Internet Fraud. There are tips and inside information on how to spot
fraudulent escrow companies.

First of all, they provide a list of ?Suspicious" escrow sites that
they are currently watching or shutting down, and you should avoid as
of January 24, 2004.

***** safer-business.com is listed  as one of the ?Suspicious" escrow sites.

?These sites that we have found just since November have suspicious
activity and we are watching them closely, or have turned them in to
the web hosts/registrars for deactivation .  If you see a name listed
below, it is because we have determined they are fraudulent.?
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/fraud.htm



The consumer guide also provides tips for avoiding fraudulent escrow scams.


=========
Example 1
=========

?Do a Google search on the escrow's web site name.  Legit escrows have
lots of Google results. Newer fake escrow sites will have zero search
results, or maybe one, if you see them listed here.?

***** I did a goggle search for www.safer-business.com and there were O hits.

://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=www%2Esafer%2Dbusiness%2Ecom


=========
Example 2
=========

?If the escrow company is located outside the U.S., don't use them. 
Are you nuts?  They are not governed by any U.S. Laws.?


***** Safer-Business is based in Austria!

?Safer Business is an independent escrow company based in Wien, Austria.

European Office:
Address : Erzherzog Karl-Str 13
Zip : 1220 
City : Wien 
Country : Austria
http://safer-business.com/company.htm


=========
Example 3
=========

 ?Go to Register.com and do a "whois" lookup of the escrow company
domain name.  If the domain name was registered only weeks before,
consider them to be fraudulent.  They usually lie on their site and
claim to be around since 1999 or 2000.?

***** I did a whois search and Safer-business.com was created only
weeks before on Jan 06, 2004. The contact information is completely
different from the contact information they provide on their website.


Here are the results of the whois search for www.safer-business.com. 

Organization:
      NA
      Mariam Bin Mahfouz
      8 Museum Way # 1906
      Cambridge, MA 02141
      US
      Phone: 6179451802
      Fax..: 6179451802
      Email: elmiloudimustaph@permanentmail.com

   Registrar Name....: Register.com
   Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
   Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

   Domain Name: SAFER-BUSINESS.COM

      Created on..............: Tue, Jan 06, 2004
      Expires on..............: Thu, Jan 06, 2005
      Record last updated on..: Sun, Jan 18, 2004

   Administrative Contact:
      NA
      Mariam Bin Mahfouz
      8 Museum Way # 1906
      Cambridge, MA 02141
      US
      Phone: 6179451802
      Fax..: 6179451802
      Email: elmiloudimustaph@permanentmail.com

   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Register.Com
      Domain Registrar
      575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
      New York, NY 10018
      US
      Phone: 902-749-2701
      Fax..: 902-749-5429
      Email: domain-registrar@register.com


http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi?07d7325a76353f1d0da43c359893fd91f3e62d194304e07d94c04f1dea996dee27187768bdf6ed88bec3e8a750b68c3b


=========
Example 4
=========


?Assume that just about any escrow service with the word "Safe" or
Secure" in their name are neither safe, nor secure.?

*****This Escrow Service is called Safer-business.

http://safer-business.com/index.php



=========
Example 5
=========

?Avoid dealing with an escrow web site that does not have BOTH the
address AND the phone number listed.  Always call the phone number to
talk to a human.  If you get a fax or some bogus generic voicemail
that says "leave a message", it's fraudulent.?

***** Safer-business.com ONLY provides their address ? NO PHONE NUMBER.

http://safer-business.com/contact.php


=========
Example 6
=========


?Verify with the Better Business Bureau if they have a reliability
report on your escrow company.  It takes 5 seconds.  Legitimate escrow
services are members of the BBB, and should have a "Satisfactory
Record" on the BBB Reliability Report.?


***** I searched for safer-business.com at the Better Business Bureau.
There were no companies matching my search criteria.
Safer-business.com is not a member of the Better Business Bureau.

http://search.bbb.org/search.html


***** I then searched at the BBB of Southern Arizona. 
There were no companies found by the name of safer-business.
There were no results when I searched by their address on 1010 E Mabel St either.
http://www.tucson.bbb.org


I highly recommend that you read the entire Consumer Guide here:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/fraud.htm


To sum it up:

There is no Escrow company called "Safer Business.Com" at 1010 E.
Mabel Street, Tuscon, Az 85719.


Search criteria:

Safer-business.com
Better Business Bureau
Whois search
Escrow Internet Fraud


I hope you find this information useful!

Sincerely,
Bobbie7
ono62931-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
The research was very, very, good and exceptionaly well done in a very
timely manner.  Thanks

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