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Subject:
Home office deduction
Category: Business and Money > Accounting Asked by: cwdesigns-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
29 Jan 2004 00:05 PST
Expires: 28 Feb 2004 00:05 PST Question ID: 301337 |
Hi, My wife and I are the only owner/employees of a California based S Corporation. We use 20% of our rental home for business. We would like to deduct the rent, utilities, etc as "home office deduction". What process should we follow to be able to deduct them? Are we supposed to pay 20% of the rent/utilities from our business account and the rest from our personal account? For the utilities, does PG&E mind receiving two checks every month, instead of one? After having paid 20% of the rent/utilities from the business account, if we decide to change the percentage when we file the income tax returns for the company, can we do that? Thanks |
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Re: Home office deduction
Answered By: richard-ga on 29 Jan 2004 06:50 PST Rated: |
Hello and thank you for your question. The IRS publication of interest is Publication 587 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p587.pdf "The rules in this publication apply to individuals, trusts, estates, partnerships, and S corporations.... There are no special rules for the business use of a home by a partner or S corporation shareholder." Id. at page 2 You'll see on page 6-8 how the deduction is calculated (based on the square footage of the home used for business) and how it is deducted. "Generally, the business percentage for utilities is the same as the percentage of your home used for business." Id. at page 9 See also http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw99.html As to the mechanics of making these payments, you should simply pay 100% of these items out of your personal funds, and then fill in and file Form 8829 (you can see the form from page 12 of the publication) to take the available deductions. This is the method the IRS expects you to use, and it also means that there's no need to declare or calculate the deduction percentage until you actually file the return. So the 1120S S corporation return will show taxable income before these deductions, and then on your personal Form 1040 you will report your S corp income and you will take the available deductions as an offset to a portion of that income. Please read through the IRS publication, and then if you need anything further from me, request clarification of my answer. I would appreciate it if you would hold off on rating my answer until I have a chance to reply. Search terms used: "s corporation" "home office" site:irs.gov Sincerely, Richard-ga | |
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Re: Home office deduction
From: cynthia-ga on 02 Feb 2005 03:53 PST |
Be sure to not exceed the maximum allowed as measured by the IRS. Personally, I always ate the home-office deduction. I figured it was insurance against an audit, and in fact --in 17 years of self-employemnt, I never did get audited. The home-office deduction is a HUGE red flag, and trying to squeeze every last nickel from it will eventually bite you in the a**. ~~Cynthia |
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Re: Home office deduction
From: jancpa-ga on 14 Feb 2005 17:46 PST |
The "maximum allowed" by the IRS is a reference to the fact that the home office deduction cannot create or increase a business loss. However, any amount that cannot be taken in the current year can be carried forward to the next and used against that year's income, so include ALL legitimate deductions. It makes no sense not to take the home office deduction, if it is legitimate. There was a fairly brief period of time during which the home office deduction was approached with particular care, because of a Supreme Court finding. Congress has since changed the tax law to override the ruling. All you have to do is be honest -- if it's 10% of your house, don't claim 20%. It is a myth that the home office deduction is a red flag to the IRS -- it's not even a little tiny pink one. As with all deductions, keep good records. Think to yourself, "If I were audited, what would the IRS agent want to see?" Then keep it. It is foolish to make a donation to income taxes by passing up on a deduction you are completely entitled to. Use the resource Richard provided -- http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p587.pdf -- and enjoy the write-off. 8) JanCPA |
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Re: Home office deduction
From: nosleep-ga on 16 Feb 2005 07:24 PST |
I'm a little confused about Richard's answer. In order to use a Form 8829, don't you have to file a Schedule C? And if you're an S Corp, you won't be filing a Schedule C, obviously. Is there an alternate form like the 8829 that's for S Corps? Thanks. |
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