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Subject: Software to produce handwritten style letters
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: puravida77-ga
List Price: $4.00
Posted: 03 Feb 2004 21:34 PST
Expires: 04 Mar 2004 21:34 PST
Question ID: 303389
I want to know where I can buy software that will produce letters that
look hand written as if written by hand in cursive.
This company is similar to what I want: http://www.vletter.com
Except that is is not realistic enough. One problem I see with this
company's product is that the same letters accurances throughout the
text are all identical. Real handwritten text has variance in the way
the letters are written from occurance to occurance of that letter
(e.g.: two "L's" next to each other are identical-- real people don't
write that perfectly..). This company varies the angle of the word
occasionally, and some other things-- but  still would be easy to tell
from real handwritting.
The product I am looking for must be indistinguishable to a reader
from letter that was written by hand. This is a non-negotiable
feature. If the software cannot do this (e.i.: It's close-- like this
company's product) it is simply not useable.
Also, this software must be able to create letters in masse. Such as
creating letters that vary in text only by who that are addresses,
E.g: create 100 letters where the word after "Dear " has a name-- and
that name varies for each letter. In other words the letter is a sort
of template where each one has been cutomized only that it's to
someone else. Manually creating each letter and typing in the
differant name is not feasible. It must be in an automated fashion--
such as driven from a list/spreadsheet/whatever.
Thanks!

Request for Question Clarification by byrd-ga on 05 Feb 2004 13:00 PST
Hi pravida77,

Does this product looking like something you could use? 

ByHand by Sagittal Software, Inc.  http://www.sagittal.com/byhand.html

Clarification of Question by puravida77-ga on 05 Feb 2004 16:52 PST
No, because it does the same thing as the vletter product-- and that
is every occurance of the same letter is the same. People have random
flaws in their writing. These products when doing the word "will" for
example would produce two "l's" next to each other that are EXACTLY
alike visually. At least the vlteer product induces random changes in
the angle of the whole word, or is hight on the line. Let me put this
another way... Write some text on a sheet of paper with a pen. Look at
instances of a particular letter on the page.. like the "o's" or the
"t's".. -- they are not exactly alike. I need software that produces
an 'image' (because this cannot be done with a font..) where it looks
like real human writing.

Request for Question Clarification by byrd-ga on 05 Feb 2004 17:50 PST
Okay, I'm sure you know what you're looking for.  But actually I think
I *do* understand what you want and largely it's just not available
yet, though there are people working on it - Microsoft among others,
as well as people at various universities and "think-tanks."  Just
wondering if you checked out the description for the "By Hand"
product, (which is not a font, by the way, and in which every
occurrence of the same letter is NOT the same) where it states,

"... allows letters to extend over, under, or through the surrounding letters;

 ... each script can contain many examples of each letter, from which
ByHand(tm) chooses according to the surrounding letters, to simulate
natural handwriting;

...  you may choose messy ink, uneven text baselines, or uneven left
margins for a more natural, handwritten look;

... you may use commonly available pen tablets to enter your own
calligraphy or handwriting directly into the program."

Anyway, best of luck.  I hope another Researcher can help you better!

Regards, 
Byrd-ga

Clarification of Question by puravida77-ga on 05 Feb 2004 18:40 PST
I tried out the download of the "by hand" product on my pc here.  What
I meant by all occurance alike is--- If you type the word "will" over
and over.. every one will be exactly alike. The last 'l' in the 'will'
will look identical to the last l in all other "will's".  Every "the"
looks identical to every other 'the' , and so on.

Clarification of Question by puravida77-ga on 06 Feb 2004 17:09 PST
I am creating a lot of letters. Thousands.
I wish to have a list of names.. and say 'go'(not in a literal
sense..)  and have them created. Each one looking like it was
hand-written, and each one having one name from the list of names
embedded in the text. The entire letter needs to look hand written.
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Subject: Re: Software to produce handwritten style letters
From: spalding-ga on 06 Feb 2004 13:35 PST
 
Study the vletter website a little more carefully. They produce
contextual fonts, meaning letters are different depending on what
letters they're next to. This company used to be PenFonts and I've
seen their work. It's pretty good?I've built handwriting fonts myself
and I can honestly say that $49 is a bargain. If you MUST have variety
that the font can't provide, simply order two fonts and mix and match.
Search for "tt" or"ll" combinations and switch one of the letters with
the other font. Of course you're right that "the" will always look
like every other "the" if you only use one font. This 2-font method is
still much less expensive than most options. What is your end product?

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