What import duty (customs) does Mexico charge on compressors and
evaporators from Turkey and the United Kingdom/EU? The application is
for domestic/home refrigerators and cooling systems for retail in
North America. |
Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
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06 Feb 2004 10:52 PST
Hello -
Thanks for your question.
1) Are these being imported for assembly?
and
2) Can you tell me what industry these are for? And what they're
being used for? The duties may vary accordingly.
Thanks,
jbf777
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Clarification of Question by
ulusbilgi-ga
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06 Feb 2004 15:16 PST
Thank you for the clarification question. (1) Both items are planned
to be imported for assembly. (2) The compressor application is for
water coolers for use in home/by consumer, not industrial. The
evaporators are for small home/domestic refrigerators with height of
about four to five feet. I appreciate your efforts.
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
09 Feb 2004 13:00 PST
I have some numbers for you, but just waiting on having them verified
by a second source. Thanks for your patience.
jbf777
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
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09 Feb 2004 14:02 PST
I have numbers for the products, verified from two sources, that would
give you a general estimate (most likely within 1% or 2%) based on the
information you've provided. There are a number of details that go
into classifying items for applicable duty rates. The sources I have
should be able to give you an exact classification for your product
should you be able to provide things like
documentation/specifications/pictures for them.
Please let me know if these numbers, along with source contact
information, would be sufficient for an answer to your question.
Thank you,
jbf
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Clarification of Question by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
09 Feb 2004 15:01 PST
Hello, The compressors are compact, hermetic type; I believe they are
around 1/20 HP and weigh around 7 KG. They are ideally suited for
family water coolers as one often finds in kitchens. The evaporators
are sometimes referred to as wire-on-tube systems and are often used
on "table-top," small refrigerators. Accuracy is rather important
with this question. If my information is still not specific enough to
get a specific answer, I would appreciate you advising multiple
classifications and the respective classifications' meanings; perhaps
I can then sort them by reading the classifications. I thank you
again for your efforts.
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
09 Feb 2004 16:11 PST
Ok, I think this can be done, provided I get the exact specs from you
that they require.
I need the electrical capacity of the motors for both products and any
kind of related information ... pressure capacity, etc.
Thanks,
jbf
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Clarification of Question by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
09 Feb 2004 19:31 PST
For specifics, the hermetic compressor is 115volt/60Hz or
110volt/50Hz, has a static cooling design so does not require fan or
oil to cool, produces at most 2.80 cc displacement, has actual maximum
weight of 6.9 kg, uses R134a refrigerant, and in the industry is
considered to have standard efficiency (as opposed to high
efficiency). It uses either RSIR, PTCSIR, or PTCSCR type motor. It
is not intended for "heavy lifting" such as use in large home
side-by-side refrigerators.
The second item does not have electrical qualities; it is an
wire-on-tube evaporator system which serves as a freezer shelf. In
other words, it serves as the rack on which food or otherwise item to
be cooled is placed, in contrast to many other evaporators which are
out-of-sight of the consumer. It is very common with table-top
refrigerators for small apartments/dorm rooms.
Thank you again.
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
10 Feb 2004 18:42 PST
I have updated numbers from one of the sources, and I'm waiting on a
confirmation from the other, due hopefully by tomorrow.
Thanks for your patience thus far.
jbf
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
11 Feb 2004 07:55 PST
Can you tell me how many kilowatts (or what percentage of a kilowatt)
the compressor uses?
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Clarification of Question by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
11 Feb 2004 09:21 PST
I believe you are asking for refrigeration capacity. For standard
efficiency compressors, I have a table of six groups of compressors
and the one to which I request an answer is one size smaller than the
smallest one shown. The one which the table shows, so one size
larger, produces 40 W at -25C under Cecomaf, which is a European
standard. Under the more familiar ASHRAE in North America, it
produces 49 W at -25C. By way of contrast, the largest standard
efficiency compressor noted is 103 W at -25C Cecomaf. The model I
have is indeed rather small. If there is a nearby cutoff, I would
greatly appreciate you giving me both numbers. I will work with my
overseas contacts tomorrow to get the exact figure. I can also
address the evaporator issue today. I thank you again for your
assistance.
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Clarification of Question by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
11 Feb 2004 09:52 PST
I should add that the compressor would be slightly less than 1/20
horsepower, which is noted for the models in my compressor catalog.
If one presumes 100% conversion, 1 HP = 746 watts, which translates to
around 37 watts. I figure that the model I have would be around 30-37
watts at -25C Cecomaf, but it is still an educated guess.
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
11 Feb 2004 18:20 PST
I have a definitive, confirmed answer on the duty rates, but I'm still
awaiting one minor point of confirmation on the classifications, which
I will have tomororw morning.
Thanks again,
jbf777
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
12 Feb 2004 14:57 PST
Still waiting... taking a little longer than anticipated, but should
be any time now.
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Request for Question Clarification by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 08:28 PST
Hey again -
Will the compressors have the motor included (as one unit) when coming
over the border?
Thanks,
jbf
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Clarification of Question by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 08:48 PST
The motors are located inside the compressor, so will be as one while
crossing the border. Thank you again.
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Hello -
Thanks again for your question. If you choose to rate this answer,
please ask for any additional clarification you may require
beforehand. Thanks for your understanding.
After many conversations, I have confirmed with two independent
Mexican customs brokers (one located in Mexico and one in the US) that
both the compressors and evaporators incur an 18% duty under Mexican
tariff(1). Additional 15% IVA tax is *not* applicable due to the
items' temporary transit to Mexico.
Both brokers agree on a classification of 8418.99.99 for the
evaporator and 8414.30.99 for the compressor.
You can see the description at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperations
(APEC) harmonization codes site:
Evaporator classification: 8418
http://www.apectariff.org/tdb.cgi/ff3232/apecfind.cgi?form_name=SEARCH&Search_max=25&Country=MX&Searchd=&Searchs=8418.99.99&Search.x=0&Search.y=0
"Refrigerators, freezers and other refrigerating or freezing
equipment, electric or other; heat pumps other than air conditioning
machines of heading No. 84.15."
Compressor classification: 8414 (parent category)
http://www.apectariff.org/tdb.cgi/ff3232/apecfind.cgi?form_name=SEARCH&Search_max=25&Country=MX&Searchd=&Searchs=8414.30.07&Search.x=53&Search.y=2
"Air or vacuum pumps, air or other gas compressors and fans;
ventilating or recycling hoods incorporating a fan, whether or not
fitted with filters."
Both classifications are under "Los demás" or "other." It appears
that the rates listed on the above links are not current.
Also, I am told by one of the brokers, that if you were to have these
items originate in the US or Canada, there would be no duties
incurred. The same broker says that there should be no additional
tariff for use of a broker due again to these items' temporary
transit.
You can read more about the Harmonized System (HS) at the World
Customs Organization website:
http://www.wcoomd.org/ie/En/AboutUs/aboutus.html
Brokers contacted:
Cabayero (located in Mexico)
011-52-6566 82-1925 (contact: Rafael)
www.cabayero.com
Mexgroup (located in California)
Victor Mena
619-661-5338
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Clarification of Answer by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 13:17 PST
That one line should read:
Evaporator classification: 8418 (parent category)
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Clarification of Answer by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 13:19 PST
One other correction:
The link for the compressor should be:
http://www.apectariff.org/tdb.cgi/ff3232/apecfind.cgi?form_name=SEARCH&Search_max=25&Country=MX&Searchd=&Searchs=8414.30.99&Search.x=53&Search.y=2
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 14:07 PST
I thank you for your answer. Under my question, I was expecting
differing rates because I thought UK would fall under the
Mexico-European Union Free Trade Agreement and could realize lower
rates than Turkey, which is not a full member of EU, for goods sold
into Mexico. I did not know the individual countrys' percentages and
hence the price advantage one would have over the other. Please
confirm whether Turkey and United Kingdom/EU have the same customs
duty of 18%? I realize you have worked very hard for the answer; I
thank you again.
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Clarification of Answer by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 14:23 PST
Very good point! I'm informed that with (and only with) a certificate
of origin, there is a significant discount on the UK rates. I have
them from one broker and will confirm with the other shortly. Thanks.
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Clarification of Answer by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 16:23 PST
As confirmed by both brokers, the duty rate with (and only with) a
certificate of origin would be 5% on both items from UK.
Feel free to ask for any additional clarification.
jbf
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 16:50 PST
Thank you. I believe your answer is implied, but I want to be sure
that if the goods come from Turkey, the EU discount would NOT apply.
Turkey is an "associate member" of the EU instead of a "full member,"
which leaves whether Turkish goods would receive 5% with a certificate
of origin somewhat murky. Your answer implies the negative, but much
is riding on the answer, so I want to be sure. In the spirit of my
question, it is the only outstanding issue.
I want to thank you again for your diligence for accuracy.
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Clarification of Answer by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 18:05 PST
My apologies, I should have been more explicit. When originally
asked, I made sure both brokers did explicity confirm 5% from the UK
and 18% from Turkey for both items. Is this a fairly new agreement
affecting trade between Mexico and Turkey? If so, is there a
possibility these brokers wouldn't be apprised of the rate?
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ulusbilgi-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 18:43 PST
I doubt there has been any specific trade agreement between Turkey and
Mexico in the very recent past (e.g., part few months). As your
contacts have both advised duties of 5% for UK and 18% for Turkey, I
will take that information as current, and consider the answer
answered. I thank you very much.
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Clarification of Answer by
jbf777-ga
on
13 Feb 2004 20:25 PST
My pleasure. Do let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks
very much for the kind words, rating and tip! Please stop by again!
jbf
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