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most accurate mechanical watch
Category: Science > Instruments and Methods Asked by: bugbear-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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05 Feb 2004 14:49 PST
Expires: 06 Mar 2004 14:49 PST Question ID: 303904 |
What is the most accurate mechanical watch? How much less accurate is it than a good quartz watch? |
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Re: most accurate mechanical watch
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Feb 2004 16:56 PST Rated: |
There are many claims, but I would give the edge to the Patek Philippe 10 Day Tourbillon: "Tourbillons are tiny devices that keep a mechanical watch--one that needs winding--from losing accuracy because of the effects of gravity... With the 10 Day Tourbillon--which has a ten-day power reserve--Patek is hoping for independent verification of accuracy of less than one second a day (the official Swiss bureau usually looks for a variation of four to six seconds)." Fortune Magazine: Watch This http://www.fortune.com/fortune/specials/2003/0616/watches/tourbillons.html "Patek Phillipe, world leader in the horological industry since 1839, joined forces with Stratford-upon-Avon-based jewellers George Pragnell Ltd. The highlight of the evening was the showcasing of the most accurate mechanical watch in the world, the '10 Day Tourbillon' which will retail at around £151,000." This Is Stratford-Upon-Avon: Take time out for Sunday family day http://www.thisisstratford-upon-avon.co.uk/stratford_upon_avon/archive/2003/07/10/strat_sport_general014ZM.html Here you'll find an in-depth look at this remarkable wristwatch: ThePurists: ?10 DAY TOURBILLON?: Patek Philippe?s latest masterpiece http://www.thepurists.com/brandjpg/pp/sihh03/ Before the 10 Day Tourbillon came along, the titled of "most accurate mechanical wristwatch" was claimed by Zenith, whose El Primero movement is accurate to two seconds per day: "Thanks to its 36,000 vibrations per hour, the El Primero movement is the world's most accurate mechanical chronograph." Watch Network: CHRONOMASTER XXT QUANTIEME PERPETUEL by ZENITH http://www.watchnetwork.com/ClassiApp/ClassiNews/News?process=view_story&NewsStoryID=87 "The famous Zenith cal 400 31 jewel El Primero Automatic Movement (the same movement formerly used in the Rolex Daytona)... is accurate to two seconds a day." Watchseller: Zenith Class Sport El Primero Chronograph http://watchseller.com/zenelprimaut.html It is ironic that an inexpensive, mass-produced quartz watch from an undistinguished manufacturer can beat these finely-crafted instruments by a considerable margin. The accuracy of quartz timepieces varies with temperature, but most quartz watches are accurate to about a half second per day: "In modern quartz clocks, the resonator is a tuning fork shape, laser-trimmed or precision lapped to vibrate at 32,768 cycles per second. In most clocks, the resonator is in a small can or flat package, about 4mm long. Standard quality resonators of this type are warranted to have a long-term accuracy of about 6 parts per million at 31°C, that is, a typical quartz wristwatch will gain or lose less than a half second per day at body temperature." Wikipedia: Quartz clock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_clock In closing, I'd like to share a family anecdote on the subject of wristwatch accuracy. My late father was fascinated by timepieces such as clocks, wristwatches, even the WWV signal on shortwave radio. In the 1960s, Bulova came out with what was advertised as the most accurate wristwatch in the world, the Accutron. It used a tiny tuning fork to maintain an accuracy of approximately 2 seconds per day. My father was, of course, the first person on the block to own one of these technological wonders. He set his new watch by tuning in WWV, and every day he checked it obsessively for accuracy, fretting when it gained or lost a few seconds. Exactly one month after he began his Accutron project, he burst into the living room, crowing "It lost only a minute in a month!" And, of course, that meant that the manufacturer's claim of 2 seconds per day was right on target. Jubilation abounded. I asked to see the watch. I admired its sleek looks and marveled at the barely detectable, hypnotic humming sound that its tuning fork made. Then I noticed something that made me burst into laughter. Using the WWV signal, Dad had indeed set the clock to the exact minute and second. However, he had set the hour hand incorrectly. The watch was four hours off. Well, four hours and one minute, to be precise. ;-) Best regards, pinkfreud | |
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Re: most accurate mechanical watch
From: pinkfreud-ga on 09 Feb 2004 16:40 PST |
Wow, thanks for the generous tip and the comment about 6 stars! It is always a pleasure to research an interesting question from a literate customer. ~pinkfreud |
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Re: most accurate mechanical watch
From: gregls-ga on 20 May 2004 14:06 PDT |
It is a popular misconception that cheap analog quartz watches are more accurate that the best mechanical watches. At first glance it may seem that a cheap analog quartz watch that deviates on average 0.5 seconds per day should be more accurate than one of the best mechanical watches (e.g. Patek Philippe 10 Day Tourbillon) that deviates on average 1 second per day. But, the nature of the deviation actually results in the mechanical watch being significantly more accurate. Here's why ... Quartz watches tend to deviate in the same direction. A quartz watch may run slow every day, or it may run fast every day. But, mechanical watches tend to deviate more randomly, sometimes running slow, sometimes running fast. Some good mechanical watches from the best makers are very balanced so that their mean deviation is close to 0 seconds - the amount of time they run fast is cancelled by the amount of time that they run slow. The net deviation tends to follow roughly the mathematics of random walks: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RandomWalk1-Dimensional.html Suppose: m = amount of deviation of a mechanical watch (assuming 0 mean deviation) per day q = amount of deviation of a quartz watch per day N = number of days then after N days for a mechanical watch the expected deviation is roughly Dm = (square root of N) * m / 2 and the expected deviation of the quartz watch is roughly Dq = N * q Now, let's calculate the expected deviation of the above quartz and mechanical watches after half a year (183 days): m = 1 q = 0.5 N = 183 Dm = 6.8 seconds Dq = 91 seconds Even if the mechanical watch deviated typically 2 seconds per day (some less expensive Patek Philippe models do this) then Dm = 13.5 seconds Dq = 91 seconds It doesn't even take half a year for the 2 second mechanical watch to be more accurate than the 0.5 second quartz watch. After only 4 days Dm = 2 seconds Dq = 2 seconds As long as the mechanical watch is balanced, running slow as much as running fast, it will eventually beat any quartz watch that accumulates errors in only one direction. In the real world, even a mechanical watch that is balanced this way may drift in one direction slightly due to variations caused by the person wearing it, but as long as those deviations are less than the deviation of the quartz watch, the mechanical watch will eventually be more accurate after enough days. |
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Re: most accurate mechanical watch
From: zomibeking-ga on 09 Feb 2005 14:58 PST |
Pinkfr It should be noted and I'm surprised it wasn't, that while technically speaking they are essentially quartz watches, those that are synchronized with the atomic clock in Colorado - Casio makes many - are essentially as accurate as is the clock, i.e. accurate to within one second every 30 million years. So wihle not automatic a $50 Wave Ceptors is nevertheless far more accurate than even a Patek. |
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Re: most accurate mechanical watch
From: myoarin-ga on 11 Mar 2005 06:50 PST |
Tourbillon watches are really amazing mechanical devices, especially in wrist watch size, but the rotating balance wheel was invented for pocket watches that spent most of their time in a vertical position and need the tourbillon to compensate for this, whereas wristwatches - in use - are in motion and different positions, so that this is not really necessary. I bet that a very expensive and equivalently finely made wrist watch without a tourbillon would be just as accurate. My grandfather?s pocket watch (pre-WW I) with a no-name work, but nice case, was accurate to within a 2 seconds a day in 1970-80, until the main spring broke (probably so accurate ?cause my dad was like Pinkfreud?s (Hi!) and listened to the shortwave radio signal and adjusted his watches. Gregls-ga?s comment to the linked question is not inaccurate (Random path wandering), but a quartz watch that consistently gains or loses half a second (or 5 seconds even) per day, is as useful as a radio-controlled watch that is ?perfectly? accurate. If one knows the constant deviation, one can allow for it, as did navigators for 3 centuries with their ships chronometers, that had a record of their deviation noted in the lid. I love the centuries? of work and craftsmanship that stands behind mechanical watches, but quartz is better. I thought Timex had gone out of business. ?? Greetings! |
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