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Subject: Sites like privatebuy which offer virtual visa/mc
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: w00t-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 08 Feb 2004 06:34 PST
Expires: 09 Mar 2004 06:34 PST
Question ID: 304672
I want a site where i can buy a virtual visa/mc online using my actual
credit card and use that to shop online(this was what privatebuy
offered).
Card should be reloadable.. That is i should be able to add money to
it using my real credit card.
Online only.
No need for any physical card to be delivered to me.
Thank you.

Request for Question Clarification by aht-ga on 08 Feb 2004 18:05 PST
w00t-ga:

I'm going to have to post this as a request for Clarification first,
Ever since the Patriot Act changed many of the rules governing
financial anonymity in the US, companies like eCount (who were behind
the PrivateBuy.com service) have not been able to operate in the same
way. I have found an offshore option, but as I cannot vouch for the
credibility of this service I thought I'd let you have the opportunity
to see if it meets your needs, first:

Virtual Card
http://www.vcardpro.com/virtual_cards/about_virtual_card.htm

They can issue both Visa and Mastercard, apparently.

Please NOTE: this company is based in Latvia:

VCard Pro
Dzirnavu street 42-14, Riga
LV-1010
LATVIA
 
Telephone: +371 6209099 
Fax: +371 7513298 
Alternate Fax: +371 7286356 
E-mail: General: vcardpro@vcardpro.com 
Helpdesk: help@vcardpro.com 
Technical: webmaster@vcardpro.com 
Safe-Mail.NET: vcardpro@safe-mail.net 


Please let me know if you would like me to provide an expanded version
of this information as the Answer.

Thanks,

aht-ga
Google Answers Researcher

Request for Question Clarification by aht-ga on 08 Feb 2004 18:06 PST
From their FAQ:

http://www.vcardpro.com/virtual_cards/virtual_card_faq.htm

9. How is Virtual Card different from credit cards and debit cards?

Virtual Card is a prepaid card. Once the funds are transferred to your
Virtual Card, you can spend only the sum equal to the sum on your
virtual card account and not more.
Unlike a debit card, virtual card is not directly linked to your
checking account. The Card's transactions are not reported to credit
bureaus.
It is more secure to use virtual card on Internet, rather than credit
or debit cards, because you can protect yourself from fraud due to the
limited amount of money on the virtual card account. So, nobody will
be able to take more money from your account than it has.

Request for Question Clarification by aht-ga on 09 Feb 2004 00:13 PST
Hmm, slight complication. I just noticed the following:

http://www.vcardpro.com/virtual_cards/virtual_card_real_benefits.htm

"No need for card deposit. Funds can be wired to the card from any account."

Unfortunately, without going through the application process, I cannot
confirm if wire transfers are the only way of funding the card. If so,
then it does not meet your criteria for easy, online fund adding using
your existing credit card.

I will continue Researching this question for you, pending your advise
about whether the VCard Pro is appropriate for you.

Regards,

aht-ga
Google Answers Researcher

Clarification of Question by w00t-ga on 09 Feb 2004 05:03 PST
Vcardpro isnt exactly what im looking for since they wont accept
payments from my actual credit card..
So I guess its search for something else.
Thank you.

Request for Question Clarification by aht-ga on 09 Feb 2004 09:55 PST
w00t-ga:

I've found a prepaid Mastercard (actual card issued, not virtual) that
can be reloaded, via Paypal, using a credit card. The issue is that it
is not virtual, meaning that you will not get the card number until
the card is physically delivered to you (10-12 business days), and
there is an onerous 'monthly maintenance charge' of $6.95... highway
robbery, in my opinion.

If you are interested in this card, let me know, otherwise I'm still looking...

aht-ga
Google Answers Researcher
Answer  
Subject: Re: Sites like privatebuy which offer virtual visa/mc
Answered By: aht-ga on 09 Feb 2004 10:39 PST
 
w00t-ga:

OK, I think I've found the closest thing available to the now defunct
PrivateBuy service.

Due to the financial disclosure requirements introduced to the US
financial industry by the Patriot Act, the only 'virtual' credit card
services remaining in the US are the ones offer by American Express
('Private Payments') and CitiBank ('Virtual Account Numbers'). Neither
of these meet your needs, as neither are a true 'prepaid' credit card.
Both link to your physical card for a certain time period, meaning
that it is stil possible for your actual credit card to be abused
during that time by an unscrupulous merchant, or by someone stealing a
merchants' records.

The only virtual prepaid credit cards remaining, therefore, are the
ones that fall into the 'offshore' category. The primary hotspot for
this activity is actually Latvia, for the reasons mentioned in the
Comment below by harijs-ga. After reviewing the fee schedules for
physical credit cards issued by the same Latvian banks, I can
appreciate why virtual cards are so popular!

Unfortunately, all of the Latvian issued cards require that you fund
the card using a wire transfer.

My search did, however, lead me to the following website, based in the
UK, where a large variety of virtual prepaid credit cards are
referenced:

CreditSolve UK - Prepaid Mastercard and Visa Credit Cards
http://www.creditsolveuk.com/prepaid.htm

Only one of the cards on this page meets all of your criteria:
ePassporte. You can apply for this card online, verify the funding
credit card online, and load the card online. The only catch is the
relatively high reloading charge of $5 per $100 or portion thereof
that you load onto the card. However, as there is no initiation fee,
and a very low annual fee of $5/yr beginning with the second year,
this can be a better overall deal than the other options available to
you that involve either wire transfer fees, or high monthly
maintenance fees. You can find out more about the ePassporte card at:

ePassporte Home Page
https://www.epassporte.com/secure/epassporte.cgi 

Compare ePassporte Virtual and Electron Visa Cards
https://www.epassporte.com/secure/epassporte.cgi?req=vecompare

---------------------------------

Other cards to look at, but that I do not recommend, include:

CaribPay
https://www.caribpay.com/

 - only their 'deluxe' prepaid MasterCard can be used online, their
regular card is actually an ATM card
 - not virtual, physical card issued


Wired Plastic
http://www.wiredplastic.com/

 - not virtual, intended for in-person use, unsure if it can even be used online
 - can fund via credit card through PayPal
 - relatively expensive fees, including an onerous $6.95 monthly 'maintenance fee'

---------------------------------

It is really too bad that the financial community has not come up with
a technological solution to the requirements of the Patriot Act, to
permit virtual prepaid credit cards to flourish again. Their utility
for controlling online fraud equals, if not outweighs, the potential
for them to be abused by terrorists and subversives.

I hope this information is useful!

Regards,

aht-ga
Google Answers Researcher
Comments  
Subject: Re: Sites like privatebuy which offer virtual visa/mc
From: harijs-ga on 09 Feb 2004 00:23 PST
 
I'm from Latvia, myself, and virtual cards are very popular here -
about half of our banks issue them. The reason for such popularity is
the fact that in Latvia, "real" credit cards are very expensive, and
shopping on the Internet is quite popular. Most banks give only a card
number, however, one of them even provided an actual card, only
without the magnetic strip. Of course, you would have to go to the
bank yourself to apply for such a card, so obviously this company acts
as a mediator for that.
I have used two of such Latvian bank issued virtual cards in the past,
and I was able to shop at Barnes&Noble, buy a domain, etc. without any
problems.

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