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Subject:
MONEY OWED BY MALAYSIAN COMPANY
Category: Business and Money Asked by: wozza1-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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09 Feb 2004 02:06 PST
Expires: 10 Mar 2004 02:06 PST Question ID: 304910 |
A Malaysian company owes me a considerable sum of money for work completed at the 1998 Commonwealth Games. I have tried to contact the company and directors on numerous occasions without success. What other options do I have to collect the money? |
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Re: MONEY OWED BY MALAYSIAN COMPANY
From: 4keith-ga on 10 Feb 2004 05:36 PST |
What is the name and address of the company and the name of the officers? You may need to contact a business law attorney or private investigator in that city to get their home addresses or name of government agency to complain to. Please explain why you have waited until now to try to get this matter resolved. When making arrangements for their services, were you required to get any type of governmental approval for this company's services? SINCERELY, KEITH (I'm NOT a GOOGLE Researcher) |
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Re: MONEY OWED BY MALAYSIAN COMPANY
From: wozza1-ga on 10 Feb 2004 06:43 PST |
Hi Keith Thanks for your note. The Company is called Edaran Positif and the directors are Mohd Nazasli Bin Abdul Aziz and Mohd Nasrizal Bin Abdul Aziz. We understand that their father is Mr Y.B. Senator Dato' Abdul Aziz bin Samsuddin, the Deputy Minister for Education. We have tried to contact the Ministry of Information, Ministry of Finance and Prime Minister without success. We are using local lawyers (Shearn Delamore) to pursue this claim but simply looking for other ideas. We have been on the case for 5+ years! Welcome any support. Kind regards Warren Newbert |
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Re: MONEY OWED BY MALAYSIAN COMPANY
From: 4keith-ga on 12 Feb 2004 10:40 PST |
2-12-2004 Were you aware that Edaran has possibly filed for bankruptcy? Your law firm needs to either start a bankruptcy proceeding against them or get you in line to be named as a creditor. Have them look at the CIVIL SUIT #MT2-22-5231999 which came to trial approximately Jan. 16, 2002 where the company Perangsang International Sdn Bhd filed suit against Edaran Positif--have your firm look at the documentation/paperwork for this proceeding to see what Edaran's assets and debt were and whether they are making payments to get this debt paid off. Even though they seem to be well-connected in having a high placed relative in a governmental position, your contract should have had some type of penalty clause in it to make arrangement for payments in a timely fashion and if you find the right contacts in Malaysia to apply gentle pressure against the principals, they could be embarrassed enough to start paying. No easy solution but I hope you can get some type of positive action going on this. Also have your firm do a computer search through Malaysian newspapers. There is a GOOGLE LINK showing a headline about a joint venture between Edaran and NCR Malaysia, but I can't get the link to come up so I don't know if the link has been discontinued or not, perhaps if the joint venture did not go through or may have been cancelled later on. SINCERELY, 4KEITH |
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Re: MONEY OWED BY MALAYSIAN COMPANY
From: wozza1-ga on 13 Feb 2004 03:37 PST |
Many thanks Keith. I appreciate your help. I will have our lawyers look into this. Kind regards, Warren |
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Re: MONEY OWED BY MALAYSIAN COMPANY
From: michaelkane-ga on 25 Feb 2004 15:04 PST |
If you have waited for five years for justice from the Malaysian legal system, it is unlikely you will ever be paid. We have had the following excellent results in collection matters involving Middle Eastern countries: if the company never had an intention to pay you, they have committed fraud. That fraud is a violation of U.S. law. Present the case to a local prosecutor or law enforcement official in the United States. If charges are filed a warrant for the arrest of the company's principals (those who committed the fraud) will go out onto NCIC, it will also go into INTERPOL. The company's principals will not be able to travel. Believe me, this will get their attention. It is a crime to threaten a criminal prosecution to collect a debt in the United States. So you cannot threaten this action. Simply take the action, if you believe that their actions show that they never intended to pay. If they have no valid excuse, you may be a fraud victim entitling you to the remedies of the above procedure. I would cc the company on your complaint letter to the prosecutor. This is not a threat, after all, you are merely advising them of the course you are taking. If they are smart, they will attempt to settle immediately. I could anecdotally give you several examples of how effective this is. It may well be completely proper to threaten criminal action in Malaysia. It is a Muslim country and there is no such prohibition under the shari'a. Indeed, the failure to pay a just debt in Malaysia is a religous, as well as a civil obligation. That is because the Koran says, "O Believers! Keep your agreements!" If it is legally proper to threaten in Malaysia, use those mechanisms that local laws allow, especially if you are already in court. But tread carefully in this area. |
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