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Subject: the toxins in a bee stinger
Category: Science > Biology
Asked by: barrys-ga
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Posted: 10 Feb 2004 14:35 PST
Expires: 11 Mar 2004 14:35 PST
Question ID: 305504
I am preparing a lecture and I need material that desribes the poision
contained in a bee's poision pouch. This is not a scientific lecture
so extradonairy detail isn't nessasary, however i am looking for the
following:
What is the main predator of the bee and does the bee's poison work
against this predator? How does it function? Does it block the
tranmission of nerve impulses...? How does the Bee synthesyis this
poision? What particular leaves, herbs, plants.. is it atracted to,
that it needs nutrients from, to help create the poison? What systems
in the bee are involved in the fromation of the poision? Why doesn't
the poision adversly affect the bee itself. Additionaly any
information about the sophistication of the stinger design, and any
other phenomona that shows the wonder of this defense system would be
helpful

Clarification of Question by barrys-ga on 10 Feb 2004 20:55 PST
I need this info by around 2:00 PM Eastern time tommorow, Wednesday.
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Subject: Re: the toxins in a bee stinger
From: sublime1-ga on 11 Feb 2004 11:25 PST
 
barry...

I'll offer you what I found from a quick search, in addition
to my relationship with a beekeeper who has been in the 
business for 20+ years, who is a cousin of Jimmy Stewart,
who is the one that encouraged him to take up beekeeping.
His name is John.

I'll offer it as a comment, since I don't, at the moment,
have the time to dress it up and elaborate to my satisfaction.
However, if it serves your needs, let me know, and I'll post
it as an official answer.


I found this really quickly. It's a breakdown of the amino acid
composition of bee venom. The fact that it's composed of
a string of amino acids explains how easily the bees manufacture
it, since they eat a great deal of pollen, which is a complete
protein with all 22 amino acids. So they don't have to visit any
special plants to get that.

Alanine
Arganine
Asparagine
Aspartate
Cysteine
Glutamate
Glutamine
Glycine
Histidine
Isoleucine
Leucine
Lycine
Methiodine
Phenylalanine
Proline
Tryptophan
Tyrosine
Valine
http://www.concord.org/~barbara/workbench_web/unitIV_revised/blood/blood6_aminos.html

That breakdown starts from a discussion on this page:
http://www.concord.org/~barbara/workbench_web/unitIV_revised/bee_venom/


Some of the major predators, not so much of bees, but of the honey
they produce, are mammals, both large and small. Bears and smaller
mammals will try to get at the honey in both man-made and wild
hives. John recalls seeing a bear who was shot in the process of
tearing up a bunch of man-made hives and gorging on the honey.
The bear would probably have died soon anyway. When they
cut him open, they found well over 300 bee stings in his throat,
which would have swollen closed in no time.

Here's an excellent page on the nature of the stinger and the venom:
http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/bkCD/HBBiology/insect_sting.htm#Venom

And, from the same site, a page noting that bee venom has some
pheremone content, which is a common form of communication
among bees, so when one bee stings, the scent alerts other bees
to the presence of a threat to the colony (bees are much more
defensive of the colony and its contents than they are of themselves):

"The alarm or sting pheromone also may be a complex of pheromones.
When a bee stings, other bees in the immediate vicinity also try to
sting in the same place."
http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/bkCD/HBBiology/bee_behavior.htm

That site is generally a wealth of information about bees.
The home page:
http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/bkCD/HBBiology/beebiology.html

As for why the venom doesn't affect the bee itself, common sense
tells me that it's for the same reason a rattlesnake is unaffected by
its own venom: the venom is in a sac which insulates it from the
rest of the organism.

Notice the two glands which make up the venom sac, from the page
I cited earlier:
"The poison gland system of the bee consists of a small alkaline gland
and a larger acid gland. The venom comes from these two glands."
http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/bkCD/HBBiology/insect_sting.htm#Venom

This may be part of the reason the venom is less volatile within the
insect, as it isn't mixed until it's injected.

I hope that helps you!

sublime1-ga


Searches done, via Google:

"bee venom" -therapy -product
://www.google.com/search?q=%22bee+venom%22+-therapy+-product
Subject: Re: the toxins in a bee stinger
From: supermacman-ga on 11 Feb 2004 15:28 PST
 
I believe a lot of the pain associated with a bee sting comes from
acid in the stinger..

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7317&highlight=
Subject: Re: the toxins in a bee stinger
From: knowledge_seeker-ga on 12 Feb 2004 09:54 PST
 
aww..too bad I didn't see this question sooner!

I was just reading a back-issue of Discover magazine, and nearly all
of your questions are answered in an article on bee stinging --
including breakdown of the major chemicals of the venom, an excellent
artist rendition of the stinging mechanism, the evolution of stingers
and a Pain Index of the stings of various insects.

You can't read the article for free online, but here's the
bibliography in case you're still interested.

Stung
How tiny little insects get us to do exactly as they wish
By Richard Conniff
DISCOVER Vol. 24 No. 06 | June 2003
http://www.discover.com/issues/jun-03/features/featstung/

-K~  (unfortunately, a day late)

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