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Subject: manafacturer of specialist anti fouling
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: nickbell-ga
List Price: $60.00
Posted: 18 Feb 2004 12:02 PST
Expires: 19 Mar 2004 12:02 PST
Question ID: 308036
i need to know the name of british manafacturer of marine anti fouling
paint, that specifically uses capsaicin resin from chilies as an
important ingredient.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 18 Feb 2004 17:29 PST
Hello nickbell-ga,

The "HotBottom" paint that my colleague, omnivorous-ga, referred to in
the comment below was a US-manufactured product that is no longer
produced.

I uncovered several up-to-date resources that review the state of the
art of innovative antifouling paint research and activity in the UK,
and throughout Europe.  There are several researchers exploring use of
capsaicin, but I saw no indication that it is in use as an ingredient
in a commercial antifouling product in the UK.

It is used in quite a number of pest-control products such as dog
repellent(chiefly in the US, it seems), but again, not in anti-fouling
paint, as far as I can see.

Can you tell me anything further about your question?  Did you read or
hear about antifouling use of capsaicin in the UK?  If so, any details
you can add -- when you heard of it, what you learned, etc -- would be
a great help.

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by nickbell-ga on 19 Feb 2004 11:33 PST
hi pafalafa-ga , the other info that i have that may be of use is that
the chilies are grown in mexico, are trucked to somewhere in states,
and are then either shipped or flown to the uk. the chilies are grown
in the area between lower quintana roo, and belize. the type of
chilies are red savina, and caribbean red, both types of habeneros, i
think.   The above is all FACT.
I am reliably informed that the chilies are made into some kind of 
resin, and then onto paint manafacturer. both in the uk. either the
paint company or the refining company, if different, would be
acceptable.
i shall try and find out name of the company in states, who are the
middlemen,sort of.   the only other snippet of info that i have is
that apperently forty tons of the chilies, only makes one litre of the
resin, so someone, somewhere is shifting a lot of chilies.   regards
nick bell ga.

Request for Question Clarification by omnivorous-ga on 19 Feb 2004 12:49 PST
Nick --

One of the reasons that I included the patent number was that it might
be profitable to contact the inventor to see if he's aware of any
current manufacturers.  The patent has an address for him, though it
may be his attorney.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 19 Feb 2004 23:18 PST
Hello, nickbell-ga!

"i shall try and find out name of the company in states, who are the
middlemen,sort of.."

Could the US company you are referring to be Global Source Advantage?
http://www.naturesrepellent.com/company.html

"Global's extract of Habanero is "Nature's Repellent"

Direct from nature; Environmentally Friendly
Non-Toxic; Non-Poisonous; Non-Lethal
Proved effective for animals, aquatic species, termites and other
insects, and wood boring birds.

* Patented process molecularly bonds the natural "heat" of chile
pepper into paints, stains, plastics, resins, sealants and other
rubberized materials.

"The ?Nature?s Repellent? extract is currently in the EPA registration
process and available to U.S. commercial users for efficacy testing in
their product lines. The extract is available to international users
in commercial quantities, as appropriate."

I have not found a UK link yet but I will keep trying.

umiat

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 19 Feb 2004 23:27 PST
I have also found reference to the production of anti-fouling paint
containing Capsaicin in China. Does that information interest you?

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 20 Feb 2004 12:24 PST
Nickbell,

 I recently spoke with a contact at Global Source Advantage about your
question. He did not know of any UK manufacturers or suppliers of
anti-fouling paint in the UK, and their company does not provide any
capsaicin to the UK. He did, however, provide me with some information
concerning a company in Australia that is using capsaicin.
 Also, as I stated earlier, I can provide you with information
regarding the manufacture of anti-fouling paint utilizing capsaicin in
China.
 I will wait to hear from you in case you are interesting in pursuing these leads.

umiat

Clarification of Question by nickbell-ga on 21 Feb 2004 05:03 PST
HI PAFALAFA GA, many thanks for your work, i dont have much else to
add to the info, other than all my origonal info came from mexico,
last year.
sorry i cant add more.    regards nick bell.

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 21 Feb 2004 07:15 PST
I found one mention of the marine anti-fouling paint, and the website
says that Chinese scientists were the ones that developed it, using
capsaicin extracted from cayenne pepper. Marine organisms were
successfully repelled by the paint without toxicity. No mention though
of the company that made it, and I will see if I can find that
information.

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 23 Feb 2004 17:47 PST
Hello, nickbell,

 In an earlier clarification I mentioned that I had contacted a
company in Australia that was developing an anti-fouling coating using
capsaicin. I finally received a reply today.
 The contact told me that they are working diligently with a
management team consisting of individuals throughout the world,
including "individual business leaders and ex-diplomats from the UK."
He said he would be willing to pass on the names of the UK contacts.
He also mentioned that the company I had mentioned previously, Global
Source Advantage, was the premier company in the field regarding the
farming and extraction of capsaicin for the development of
environmentally friendly products, including marine anti-fouling paint
and coatings.
 I will gladly pass on the information for the Australian company if
you would like to contact them concerning the UK contacts.

 Please let me know.

 umiat

Clarification of Question by nickbell-ga on 27 Feb 2004 11:11 PST
hi umiat ga, sorry for delay in replying, pc being troublesome.
yes i would be interested in the names of the uk contacts you mention
in your comment of the 23 feb.    regards nick bell.

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 27 Feb 2004 14:17 PST
nickbell,

 I will provide you with the information and contact of the Australian
company that emailed me, and they will provide you with the names for
the UK partners they are working with. I do not actually have the
names in hand. I told them I was researching for a customer, so they
did not provide me with the names since I am not the one needing the
contact information. Plus, I believe you may want to email them or
call them to discuss any other needs you may have.
 I will not post anything in the answer box until you have okayed that
as an answer. Although I made a few phone calls and did a fair amount
of research before I found this company, I understand you may not want
to pay $100 for the information. If you would like to reduce the price
of the question to what you consider fair, please feel free.
 Again, I will not post any information in the answer box until you
give the go ahead.

 umiat

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 27 Feb 2004 16:42 PST
I also need to clarify that it is important for you to correspond with
the Australian company directly to get the names of the UK investors,
primarily to protect their privacy! They may not appreciate having
their names displayed in such a public forum without granting their
permission!

Clarification of Question by nickbell-ga on 28 Feb 2004 03:07 PST
HI UMIAT GA, REGARDING YOUR COMMENT OF 27 FEB, yes i would like the
name and contact details of the australian company, and yes i would
consider that an answer, for which i would be willing to pay sixty
dollars, if thats fair with you.    regards nick bell.

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 28 Feb 2004 07:01 PST
nickbell,

 The price of $60 is fair to me. Please change the price of this
question and I will post the details:

"You can change your price at anytime as long as your question is not
currently 'locked' and being answered by a Researcher. To change your
question price, go to "My Account," select "My Unanswered Questions"
and click on the question with the price you want to change. Then
click on "Change Question Parameters" to modify the price."

 As soon as I see the price change, I will post the details! Thanks.

umiat
Answer  
Subject: Re: manafacturer of specialist anti fouling
Answered By: umiat-ga on 28 Feb 2004 17:55 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello, nickbell! 

 Thank you so much for your continued patience and clarifications.
Here is the information I uncovered:

 I initially called a company called "Global Source Advantage" which
has offices based in California and Texas. I am almost sure this is
the company you heard about that is responsible for importing peppers
into the United States. I spoke with Ed Hall, the company's Marketing
Director. I asked him if he knew of anyone in the United Kingdom that
was either buying their peppers, or manufacturing anti-fouling paint
using capsaicin. While he did not know of anyone directly, he referred
me to an Australian company named Ramshead with whom they are working
to manufacture an anti-fouling marine coating using capsaicin and
lanolin.

 
Anyway, to get to the point:

 After a bit of roundabout emailing, I finally received a reply from
ECOCOTE International, which appears to be a division of Ramshead
Products.


My email to the company
-----------------------
"I just spoke with Ed Hall of Global Source Advantage. He mentioned
that your company was working on an anti-fouling marine coating using
lanolin and capsaicin extract called Ecocote. Can you tell me a bit
more about it?  Also, do you know if there is anyone in the UK that is
manufacturing or supplying anti-fouling marine paint utilizing
Capsaicin? Or, is anyone researching the potential of such a product
in the UK? If so, could you direct me to a name or a company?"


Their response:
---------------
"Thank you for your enquiry into our developments of ECOCOTE. We are
currently working with an elite team of scientists, individuals and
organisations around the world developing a range of products
containing capsaicin.  Part of the ECOCOTE management team consists of
individual business leaders and ex-diplomats from the UK and other
parts of the world that are assisting in the overall structure and
development of our business.

"We currently hold numerous international patents protecting our IP as
we strive to be the global leaders in not only developing a range of
products containing capsaicin but also providing Environmentally
Friendly solutions.  Our U.S partner is considered to be a global
leader in the farming and extraction of capsaicin which will maintain
that everything we do remains commercially viable and will maintain
our position as being the global leaders in this rapid development."

"I would be happy to pass on the details of our UK contact if this is
required, please let me know how we can assist!"

Darren Eade 
Director 
ECOCOTE International
Ph: +617 5564 8912
Fax: +617 5564 8916

==


* I think a phone call to Darren Eade would be best so that you can
get the exact information that you need.
 

== 

 
 I have included some further information for your interest:


GLOBAl SOURCE ADVANTAGE
========================= 

"Global Source Advantage (GSA) and its predecessor companies have been
actively engaged in international farming activities for more than 15
years. Incorporated in California, the GSA Board of Directors includes
4th generation California farmers with extensive experience in
international business. GSA controls Habanero pepper production in
several Central American countries to ensure year round production and
consistent high quality."
http://www.naturesrepellent.com/company.html

"Capsicum, the fruit of the chile pepper plant, has been known in the
Western Hemisphere since the beginning of civilization. Reportedly
used for medicinal purposes by the Mayas and Aztecs, Christopher
Columbus is credited with taking chile pepper on a return voyage to
Europe from which its use spread to Asia, Africa and the rest of the
world."

"Capsicum is known to have been successfully used as an animal
repellent for more than 120 years; however, previous chile pepper
based repellents typically lacked longevity or staying power.
Scientists at New Mexico Tech discovered and patented the process that
captured the staying power of Capsicum repellents by molecularly
bonding the naturally repellent qualities of Capsicum into a variety
of host materials."

"Global Source Advantage grows Habanero pepper in the lands of the
Mayas so that you can incorporate this Nature's Repellent into paints,
stains, plastics, sealants, agricultural pest control materials or
other products."

Identified markets for Nature's Repellent include the following:

"maritime coatings for both freshwater and saltwater ships, boats and
other vessels;"
http://www.naturesrepellent.com/product.html

=

Read the following press release:

"NM Tech's Chile-Based Replellent Shown to Control Zebra Mussels."
http://www.naturesrepellent.com/art3.html

"Scientists at New Mexico Tech invented and patented the process which
allows the naturally repelling qualities of chile peppers to be
molecularly bonded into paints, stains, plastics and other rubberized
materials. The result is an effective, all natural and environmentally
sensitive repellent for land and aquatic animals, birds and insects."



CAPSAICIN-BASED ANTI-FOULING PAINT FROM CHINA
==============================================

You might be interested in the following two articles (both basically
the same info)
 
=

"Chinese scientists announced they have developed a kind of nontoxic
paint that can drive away ship-clinging organisms and does not pollute
the ocean.

"The antifouling paint containing capsaicin, an extract of cayenne
pepper, was developed by researchers with the No. 2 Marine Research
Institute of the State Oceanic Administration and passed a technical
appraisal by experts with the Zhejiang Provincial Science and
Technology Bureau in east China recently."

"Lin Maofu, head of the research team, referred to the paint as a kind
of compound composed of a biologically active substance distilled from
natural pollution-free capsicum and organic clay."

"The paint does not kill the sea organisms that cling on ships, but
can drive them away, Lin said, thus reducing energy consumption by
making it easier for ships to sail."

"Moreover, Lin said, experimental use of the paint on seven ships
sailing on the South China Sea, the East China Sea, the Yellow Sea and
the northern Pacific Ocean show that it can reduce pollution
effectively."

"The paint is of vital importance in protecting the oceanic ecological
environment and promoting the sustainable growth of oceanic economy,
noted Jin Qinghuan, an academician with the Chinese Academy of
Engineering, who is among the experts to authenticate the antifouling
product."

From "China Develops Nontoxic Paint for Ships." Last updated at:
(Beijing Time) Wednesday, September 25, 2002
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200209/25/eng20020925_103875.shtml

==

"Chinese scientists have reportedly developed a nontoxic paint that
can drive away marine organisms that cling to ship hulls. The
anti-fouling paint contains capsaicin, an extract of cayenne pepper,
and was developed by researchers with the No. 2 Marine Research
Institute of the State Oceanic Administration. The paint does not kill
clinging sea organisms, but can drive them away -- apparently sea
creatures don?t like spicy food!  Experimental use of the paint on
seven ships sailing through several different parts of the Pacific
Ocean was successful. According to the International Convention
Controlling Toxic Anti-Fouling Systems on Ships, manufacture and use
of any kind of toxic anti-fouling paint will be banned worldwide as of
January 1, 2003." (Xinhua, September 25)

From "Beijing Environment, Science and Technology Update." October 18, 2002
http://www.usembassy-china.org.cn/sandt/estnews101802.htm


====


 I truly hope this information is helpful and you can link up with the
contacts in the UK!

 Again, thank you for your patience and willingness to continue on
until the correct contacts could be uncovered!

Sincerely,

umiat-ga

Search Strategy
anti-fouling paint +capsaicin (and many variations)
phone calls and emails to contacts mentioned above
nickbell-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
excellent, did in a few days, what i couldnt find in a few months!

Comments  
Subject: Re: manafacturer of specialist anti fouling
From: omnivorous-ga on 18 Feb 2004 14:39 PST
 
Nick --

I found a French web page referring to a product called "Hot Bottom
Paint," allegedly manufactured by an American firm (for which I could
find no data).  The patent on the technique of using capsaicin is
#5,226,380 to Kenneth J. Fischer, of Canton, OH and it was issued July
13, 1993.   You can read it online here:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm

I could find no evidence of current production of a capsaicin-based
bottom or anti-fouling paint.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA
Subject: Re: manafacturer of specialist anti fouling
From: nickbell-ga on 27 Feb 2004 11:08 PST
 
hi umiat ga,  sorry for delay in replying, pc being troublesome.
yes i would be interested in the names of the uk contacts that you
mention in your comment of the 23 feb.

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