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Meaning of the surname Luschen
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: tjl-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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21 Feb 2004 17:31 PST
Expires: 22 Mar 2004 17:31 PST Question ID: 309340 |
Please give me the origins/meaning of the German surname Luschen. I was told that lusche means a low card, i.e. one that you would discard on a winning hand. Apparently this is now slang, like a loser or slacker, but with a fairly good connotation - more like "dude". Is this the meaning of the name Luschen? I was told growing up that it meant "sleepy person". My ancestors are from Hamburg if that is any help. | |
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Re: Meaning of the surname Luschen
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 23 Feb 2004 09:33 PST Rated: |
Dear tjl, I consulted various books dealing with the etymology of German family names, and the result is surprising, at least to me. The North German name "Luschen" is related to the similar "Lüschen", "Lüscher" and "Lüsch". All these names derive from the Low German term "Lüsch", which means "Riedgras" (="sedge"). "Lüsch" is defined as meager, worthless grass that was only in times of need used as fodder; normally, it was just good for covering floors or filling mattresses. It is a very old term that can be traced back to old Middle High German "liesche", and to "lêsch", an old Middle Low German vernacular variant from the North German cities of Hamburg and Rostock. In the latter regions, the modern Low German form of the word is "Leesch". In Dutch, which is closely related to Low German, the modern word for sedge is "lisch". "Liesch" was also the term for a wettish site, covered with sedge. Accordingly, a "Lüschen" was either a person dwelling near such a site, or someone who cut and gathered sedge. So that is what your family name means! Now, what about the modern use of "Lusche" as a (rather humorous) name for "duffer", "slowpoke", "bungler"? Actually, it has nothing to do with the grass mentioned above. It has a completely different etymology. Its origins can be traced back to a Slavonic word in the East German Lausitz (Lusatia) region. Originally standing for "she-dog in heat", it later changed its meaning to "bitch", or "cooch", with a growing emphasis on worthlessness. Finally, the word found its way into the card-game Skat, where a worthless card that does not count for points is called "Lusche" (plural: "Luschen"). Now, a "Lusche" is not only a lame card, but also a lame person. However, it is not the origin of the family name "Luschen". Sources: Hans Bahlow: Deutsches Namenslexikon. Keysersche Verlagsbuchhandlung, 1967 Prof. Josef Karlmann Brechenmacher: Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Familiennamen, Band 2. C.A. Starke Verlag, 1957 I hope this answers your question! Regards, Scriptor |
tjl-ga
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Great answer - thanks for the quick response. I'll have to share your findings with all the other losers, ...err Luschens! |
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Re: Meaning of the surname Luschen
From: justaskscott-ga on 22 Feb 2004 13:11 PST |
Here is a helpful page, for Scriptor or anyone else who wants to work on an answer. If a Researcher such as Scriptor thinks that this is the best information available, I would be happy to use it as the basis for answer. "Forschungsgebiete" Lüschen Homepage http://www.lueschen.multiservers.com/d/421index.htm The short answer is the end of the page, which translates as: "The Low German name Lüschen probably developed from the High German name Ludwig and means approximately: 'He who loves battle and glory'. Also, the top of the page indicates the homeland for this family is in Northwest Germany. Regardless of the answer, you might want to contact the webmaster, who is named Lüschen and is interested in e-mails from other people with related surnames such as Luschen. "Gesucht: Lüschen in aller Welt" (Sought: Lüschens Throughout the World) Lüschen Homepage http://www.lueschen.multiservers.com/d/422index.htm |
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Re: Meaning of the surname Luschen
From: justaskscott-ga on 22 Feb 2004 13:13 PST |
A small typo: there should be an ending double quotation mark after the word "glory". |
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Re: Meaning of the surname Luschen
From: fp-ga on 23 Feb 2004 10:36 PST |
Explanation of the related name of "Hasenlust": http://www.ndr2.de/onair/vormittag/namensforscher.html This explanation is actually identical to the one given by Scriptor. |
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