Some family members claim 'Player' is anglicised 'Pleyel'. Ignaz
Pleyel was an Austrian composer and piano maker, lived about 1760 or
so. Did some of his descendants emigrate to England about 1800 and
change their name to Player? If so what were their names? When did
they do this? Was Richard Player in this line of descent? |
Request for Question Clarification by
scriptor-ga
on
24 Feb 2004 17:47 PST
Dear mouseyxyz,
I have found information on Ignaz Pleyel's descendants, but I am not
sure if you would like the answer because it basically is negative.
Would you like me to post the details as an answer anyway?
Regards,
Scriptor
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
25 Feb 2004 02:37 PST
Richard Player emigrated to New Zealand about 1860. It is rumoured
that he had the agency for Pleyel Piano's there. He is the youngest
son of a well-known merchant family centred around Western Super Mere
in SW England. Apparently he used to get money sent from England from
time to time. More I do not know, other than the 'claim' of kin to
Ignaz Pleyel is well entrenched, but unsubstantiated for mine. I know
Camille Pleyel's kin worked in Scotland for a time setting Robbie
Burn's words to music, Marie Pleyel was a fine pianist and so on, but
I have no link between Player and Pleyel. Sorry, I know no more.
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
25 Feb 2004 15:19 PST
Re- question ID310460
Dear Scriptor,
I really am looking for a definitive statement that can
be substantiated. I can follow descendants of Ignaz Pleyel to Camille
and Marie, but there is the correspondence regarding Robert Burns and
long times in England that seems to open the door to some descendants
remaining there. If you have anything concerning the family piano
business, how it progressed in the UK, how it was managed, it might
lead to who managed it. I am really only interested if something
pretty definitive comes up, for or against. There is too much
'opinion' cast around at the moment and it is that that I am trying to
clarify. Regards, and good hunting.
Ron Player
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
28 Feb 2004 16:17 PST
Scriptor, re question ID310460. Further to last comments. I am still
interested, even if it is definitely negative. Only you can evaluate
the certainty of what you have. Suspicion and uncertainty I have
plenty of and I am really seeking truth.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Ron
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
29 Feb 2004 21:35 PST
Dear fp. Seems promising what you've found---mention of Pleyel
marriages. You are so much better than me at this business, so all I
can do is encourage you to persevere until you can give me a
definitive answer yea or nay. That would be worth the $40 !!I am 72
and not terribly computer literate, so good hunting so long as you are
still interested.
Regards,
Ron Player
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
01 Mar 2004 15:56 PST
Dear Scriptor, re question ID310460
'Freddy' mentions marriages of Pleyel's in England.
That is encouraging. Means Pleyel's remained in England I guess. I
hope you are still interested in researching Pleyel-Player? Looking
forward to your findings.
Faithfully,
Ron
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Request for Question Clarification by
scriptor-ga
on
01 Mar 2004 16:55 PST
Yes, I am still researching this question - but I am not satisfied
with the results so far. What looked promising to me at first has
proven to be too vague to make a good answer. My aim is to deliver
complete, reliable information. I will not post an answer you'd have
to pay for without having collected background information that meets
my expectations.
Best regards,
Scriptor
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
02 Mar 2004 15:38 PST
ID310460
Dear Scriptor,
Appreciate your attitude and efforts. I think you
understand my expectations. I support your efforts, and wait with
interest your findings, as I said before, whatever they are, so long
as they carry authority.
Regards,
Ron
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
03 Mar 2004 20:54 PST
To fp, re further information on ID310460.
Thanks for your findings---much appreciated. I rather gather that in
the early days names were often mis-spelt, and that changing names was
no bother at all.Just notify the administration area if you want.
Makes this all a bit more amusing and less certain I feel. So much for
the certainty of names!
Ron
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
10 Mar 2004 03:12 PST
Dear Scriptor, I have been advised that the names Pleyel, Playel, and
Player(of course) are listed in marriages etc. I have also been
advised that 'mis-spelling' of names by immigrants was quite common in
the early days. A Betty Playel is listed about late 18th century in
England. The plot thickens! Is this sort of material what you are
getting? With possible mis-spellings and name changes it almost seems
too much to hope for to get some solid connection. Pleyel Piano's is a
solid business and if Ricuard Player (my grandfather) really did have
the franchise for Pleyel Piano's in New Zealand in the late
1800's,perhaps looking into that Piano business might give some Pleyel
family connections? History of management? I gather the company still
makes piano's and is located in the south of France.
Good hunting,
Ron Player
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Clarification of Question by
mouseyxyz-ga
on
17 Mar 2004 00:56 PST
Dear Scriptor, Question ID 310460
It's been a while, and no comment? Is it now a dead end?
Are you still interested and researching the Pleyel/Player yes or no
link?
Please advise,
Ron Player
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