I am trying to track down the origins and meaning of a piece of jewelry made in
England, (Maker's Mark is JHW). It is a gold cross, made of six
links, each in a pyramid shape, that fold into a ball. It seems like
it may be from medieval times when Christians were forced to hide
their faith. Each pyramid link is enscribed with different etchings.
Have you ever come across anything like this? I have searched the
internet and found one word - encopia (a folding cross) - that may
describe this type of jewelry.
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Request for Question Clarification by
jackburton-ga
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03 Mar 2004 11:38 PST
Hi jewelofdenile,
It sounds rather interesting. Even more so, because a friend of mine
knows someone who's an expert on early Christian artifacts, and he
will be visiting later this week. It would be very helpful if you
could provide a picture of this cross.
If you have a picture, perhaps you can upload it on
Yahoo! photos:
http://photos.yahoo.com/
or here:
http://www.momentoffame.com/add_mof.html?id=226
I look forward to hearing from you.
Jackburton
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Request for Question Clarification by
czh-ga
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03 Mar 2004 12:24 PST
Hello jewelofdenial-ga,
THE ABBEY OF MONTECASSINO: The Museum - Hall B: Etruscan and Roman finds
"... encopia of the 7th century, i.e. devotional oriental Crosses used
to keep the relics of martyrs."
Is this on the right track?
~ czh ~
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Clarification of Question by
jewelofdenial-ga
on
03 Mar 2004 12:45 PST
To czh-ga: That is the website where I found the word "encopia" but I
did not see anything that resembled this piece of jewerly/pendant.
What I have is a ball on a chain -- the ball folds out to a crucifix
made of six pyramid shaped links, with each link etched with symbols.
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
03 Mar 2004 13:38 PST
The term you are referring to is actually "encolpia" or "encolpion",
alternatively spelled, "enkolpia".
Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
03 Mar 2004 16:41 PST
If you can take some detailed photos and put them on the internet,
then come back here and tell us where we need to go to see them, I'd
be delighted to give it my best shot.
Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
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Clarification of Question by
jewelofdenial-ga
on
08 Mar 2004 11:58 PST
To jackburton-ga and tutuzdad-ga: I may have a picture to post later this week.
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Clarification of Question by
jewelofdenial-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 12:02 PST
I posted pictures at http://photos.yahoo.com - under Medieval Jewelry.
Because I'm not that familiar with posting pictures, I am not sure
you can access them, although I did make viewing public. Let me know.
Thank you.
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
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12 Mar 2004 12:09 PST
We're going to need the actual links to the pictures themselves. The
address to them should look like this for example:
http://www.whereevertheyare.com/jewelry.jpg
(this link doesn't actually go anywhere but your should)
Go back to your page where you have the photos stored. Click on each
one and copy the URL address to each image (their individual
"www.pagename.com/imagename.jpg" address) and post each of them them
here.
tutuzdad-ga
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Clarification of Question by
jewelofdenial-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 12:25 PST
Okay, here is the URL (I hope) for each picture.
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/4052109b_1266f/bc/7e1d/__tn_/d73d.jpg?ph.BiUABdVQgW6nN
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/4052109b_1266f/bc/7e1d/__tn_/b6c2.jpg?ph.BiUAB9FStCAig
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/4052109b_1266f/bc/7e1d/__tn_/8dd3.jpg?ph.BiUABN7t6LKY3
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
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12 Mar 2004 12:29 PST
Thank you.
It's very hard to tell much from the photos because of their small
size. I was hoping to see the etchings or maybe see the material that
the links were made of. Also, is the chain original?
Any chance we can get some close-ups of larger, more detailed images?
tutuzdad-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 12:50 PST
I can tell you with relative certainty that what you have here is not
an example of enkolpia. These are normally reliquaries or hollow
pendants worn as pectoral medallions and often the space inside was
large enough to hold a scared object such as a blessed fabric, bead or
something upon which scripture was written.
I think the key to the origin of yoru piece is going to lie with the
inscriptions or etchings on the "links" and the material that the
links are fashioned from but of course we'd have to see a MUCH larger
and closer image of them to pursue that further.
Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
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Clarification of Question by
jewelofdenial-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 12:50 PST
Okay, you know I'm a computer neuter here -- the pictures I have on my
desktop are larger, but that's the way they ended up at the posting.
Not sure how to enlarge but, again, the one on my desktop does show
the etched detail. Let me know. Thanks.
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 13:13 PST
You might try a different places besides Yahoo. It may be something
related to them and how they resize the images to get them online. Try
one of these free sites:
http://www.mydocsonline.com/
http://www.streamload.com/
Or any of these:
http://www.freewebspace.net/guide/diskstorage.shtml
Then come back here and post the new links (the image addresses) here
and let's try it again.
tutuzdad-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 13:20 PST
Do you know or can you guess what the links (the "pyramids") are made of?
Does the chain appear to be as old as the pendant?
(If so, please include a closeup of the chain and the clasp - if any -
in particular)
tutuzdad-ga
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Clarification of Question by
jewelofdenial-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 14:35 PST
The chain came with the necklace but since it was from an estate sale,
I'm not sure if it is the original. Someone suggested perhaps its
from the Victorian era when spiritualism was popular. The pyramids
are a tarnished silver, almost pewter-like. One of the etchings is a
five-pointed star. Another looks like a golf flag and another looks
like an envelope. Maybe a "spiritual/Tarot" type code? Hope this
helps.
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
12 Mar 2004 16:23 PST
Can you tell us what Yahoo DIRECTORY your photos are in? It will look
something like this:
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/YOUR:USERNAME:GOES:HERE/my_photos
Maybe we can see the larger versions of them them way.
tutuzdad-ga
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