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Subject: Our site just won't appear correctly in Google.. Reply if you can Correct It.
Category: Computers > Games
Asked by: egames4free-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 06 Mar 2004 21:45 PST
Expires: 05 Apr 2004 22:45 PDT
Question ID: 314188
Hello, I own a site. www.eGames4Free.com , I havent worked on it in a
while because I had to retrieve some Edit Files from the hard drive, I
bought this one on eBay from a "company" that had broken chips always
in the boxes. That computer blew up. But I got a new one!

Ok here is what im trying to get at. Everytime I submit
http://www.egames4free.com to Google it only appears as a link, and
also cannot be searched for. I also fixed my meta tag to have a
description but the site has gone in and out of google but it just
doesnt want to be a Nice Little Site Listed on Google....

I will be puting in alot of work in it soon. I need to get some more time.

If you can get my site to be listed on google 
with a description and all like the others then please Reply.

Thank You!!
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Subject: Re: Our site just won't appear correctly in Google.. Reply if you can Correct It.
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 07 Mar 2004 14:38 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi there,

There is nothing wrong with your site at present, but previously there
was a powerful reason why your Google listing was lacking a
description - no text!

Do a google search that brings up your site in the results, and click
on "Cached" below the entry:
://www.google.com/search?q=egames4free

Or use the Google Toolbar, visit your site, and the select "Cached
Snapshot of Page" from the information menu.

Google Toolbar
://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=egames4free

The cached version is what Google currently uses to determine search
results - it is what your site looked like when it last visited. And
that version of your homepage consisted of just one big image. Google
is unable to read text contained within images. Without anhy readable
text, there was no content for Google to index.


Solution
--------
Submit your site to Google again:
://www.google.com/addurl.html

It typically takes 1-2 months for site updates to be reflected in search results.


Best wishes,
robertskelton-ga

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 07 Mar 2004 14:46 PST
As it is now, your homepage contains very little indexable text. The
more non-image text you have on the page, the more content Google will
read, and the greater the chances of being listed in search results.

If you get your site listed in Open Directory (it is free and very
worth your while), then Google will use the description found there.
Try this category:
http://dmoz.org/Games/Video_Games/Freeware/Directories/

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 07 Mar 2004 16:30 PST
There is something wrong with the html. It must have been messed with
and it needs to be cleaned up, maybe.. And I did this with
DreamWeaver. And Adobe for my graphics.. I dont know what to do.
Thanks,
www.eGames4Free.com

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 07 Mar 2004 18:18 PST
Do you?

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 07 Mar 2004 18:37 PST
Your HTML code is fine. There is nothing about it that would stop
Google from indexing your page.

Doctor HTML
http://www2.imagiware.com/RxHTML/

Don't worry about META description and keywords tags - Google all but ignores them.

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 07 Mar 2004 19:04 PST
Then what do I need to work on?

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 07 Mar 2004 21:25 PST
All you can do is re-submit your site to Google and wait. Adding more
regular text to the page will improve the chances of appearing in
search results.

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 07 Mar 2004 23:25 PST
Alrighty Thanks!

---No more waiting it has already been in and out of google a million
times --- no change.

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 14:10 PST
One more thing, You say there is nothing wrong with the HTML. Would it
be negative if everything was in a layer? I named most layers to
organize the html, and I recently changed text content layers to:
Layer 1, Layer 2, Layer 3. And I just added some text of game keywords
to see what happens. But I looked at googles cached of my site and
NOTHING appears, It doesnt even load. What is causing this? There is
more research to this problem that just the creative graphic gif
images on my site...

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 10 Mar 2004 14:35 PST
Hi again,

As mentioned above, the cached version represents what Google saw the
last time they indexed your site. It appears that, at that time, your
homepage consisted of one huge image:
http://www.egames4free.com/images/mainsite.gif

Google cannot index any words within an image, so with no regular text
to index, no description appears alongside your site in search
results.

Your current HTML was fine, and re-submitting and waiting a month or
two was the correct way of doing things.

However...

You have now included invisible text on the page. The only purpose for
doing so is to trick search engines.

"Avoid hidden text or hidden links."
://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

This is a big Google no-no, and it appears that Google has noticed and
penalized your site. Using the Google Toolbar you can see that your
site now had a PageRank of zero, which usually (but not always) means
your site has been penalized.

To have the penalty removed you need to remove the invisible text,
email Google, explain that you didn't realise invisible text was
against guidelines, and wait.

"However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text that can be
seen by search engines but not by users, or setting up pages/links
with the sole purpose of fooling search engines may result in
permanent removal from our index. If you think your site may fall into
this category, you might try 'cleaning up' the page and sending a
re-inclusion request to help@google.com. We do not make any guarantees
about if or when we will re-include your site."
://www.google.com/webmasters/2.html

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 15:25 PST
Thanks for helping me some more, but The text is not within the image.
Its regular text. Even the hidden text is regular text. I will take
out the hidden text, I did not know, I was only testing why this is
not being listed. I do know what cached is and means also.

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 15:28 PST
I need a striaght answer.

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 15:28 PST
I need a straight answer.

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 15:40 PST
If you do not know then let me know and ill close the question.

Thanks for All your help.

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 10 Mar 2004 16:09 PST
Google only visits websites every now and then. The cached copy is
what Google saw the last time they visited your site (could be months
ago) - it is what they use to determine search results. When trying to
work out how and why Google is listing your site, it is important to
look at the cached version.

When Google next visits your site, and indexes the new content, the
cached version will be updated as well.

Unfortunately Google indexes 4.2 Billion websites, so it takes a while
to update everything. This means waiting. All you can do is follow the
steps I outlined above and wait. It will typically take 1-2 months.
There are no easy shortcuts or paid options to get around this.

If you want any changes you make to your site to be indexed within 48
hours, Yahoo offer such a service  - but it isn't cheap!. Yahoo search
is almost as popular as Google.

Yahoo Search: Site Match
http://www.content.overture.com/d/USm/ays/sm_faq.jhtml

For future reference, I recommend reading all of Google's Guidelines
for Webmasters:
://www.google.com/webmasters/

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 10 Mar 2004 16:11 PST
Google's description of their cache is here:
://www.google.com/help/features.html#cached

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 17:03 PST
Well the last time Google indexed my site was on the 7th of this
month, only a few days ago. Just if this helps anything..

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 17:25 PST
W@W!!!! ITS UP>>> ITS REALLY UP!!!! I DONT KNOW WHAT DID IT!!! BUT ITS
UP. O IM SO HAPPY NOW I DONT HAVE TO WORRY. ThNX for Everything~!!!!

Request for Answer Clarification by egames4free-ga on 10 Mar 2004 17:46 PST
Did you do this for me?

:)

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 10 Mar 2004 18:44 PST
I didn't do a thing. If you re-submitted it to Google, then that is
what did it. All you needed was some words for them to index. (Or, for
all we know, they might have followed the link from this question...)
egames4free-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thnx.

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