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Suggestions on how I can avoid getting stiffed on a bill for services
Category: Business and Money Asked by: pcventures-ga List Price: $5.50 |
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07 Mar 2004 07:15 PST
Expires: 06 Apr 2004 08:15 PDT Question ID: 314224 |
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Re: Suggestions on how I can avoid getting stiffed on a bill for services
Answered By: aht-ga on 19 Mar 2004 14:41 PST Rated: |
pc-ventures: Thank you for the opportunity post this Answer to your question. As noted in my comment below, generally you are already doing a good job of communicating costs and time requirements to your clients. The issue appears to be when the client receiving the service is not the person who has to authorize the payment, as you yourself have already observed. Stressed-mum's comment is quite topical, as there will indeed be customers out there who try to squeeze their service providers for additional discounts simply because they think they can get away with it (either because there are lots of other providers they can use, or because the service provider has little leverage once the service has been rendered, unlike a supplier who can simply repossess the goods). My recommendation to you is to start creating a more-comprehensive paper-trail for your work estimates and actual invoices. For example, this computer repair service uses the following claim on their website: http://www.infinityok.com/computerrepairs.html "We give you a repair estimate before we start to work. If the problem is more extensive, we'll call you with a revised estimate before we go any further. Our labor rate is $60 per hour." In your case, it would be best to provide a verbal estimate over the phone, and follow it up with a written version of the estimate that you present upon arrival, requiring the signature of an authorized person before you actually start the work (similar to how car mechanics operate). If the situation changes once you get 'under the hood', so to speak, you can then issue a revised work estimate (you'll probably want to carry a folder full of preprinted two-part NCR forms for this), that states exactly why the additional charges will be necessary, and again have it signed off. This way, when it comes time to discuss full payment with a difficult client, you will have the necessary paper trail to prove that the client is not honoring their part of the written agreement as stated on the estimate form. You may also wish to incorporate a version of the following term in your form: http://www.broadcastrepair.com/policy/terms-conditions.htm "An estimate will be provided if the repair costs will exceed the pre-authorized amount stated on the work order. If at anytime during the repair process the customer decides not to have the equipment repaired, the customer will be charged and agrees to pay an evaluation/diagnostic fee of two hours at the appropriate, currently posted rates. It is impossible to always estimate the extent of, or the precise cost of the required repairs on an initial evaluation estimate; therefore it may be necessary to revise previous estimates during the repair process if other problems are discovered. If it is expected that the final cost of repair will exceed the most recent estimate by more than ten percent, a revised estimate will be submitted to the customer for approval." It serves two purposes; it provides for a diagnostic charge (to cover your parking/travel costs) if the customer decides not to proceed, and it gives you a 10% buffer between your final invoice and the estimate before you have to issue a new estimate. I hope that this is of help. Regards, aht-ga Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: Suggestions on how I can avoid getting stiffed on a bill for services
From: stressedmum-ga on 07 Mar 2004 17:22 PST |
As a self employed person, I too have experienced the frustration of working hard and invoicing fairly yet having my integrity questioned and an invoice only partially paid. Thankfully, it doesn't happen often, but when you know you've given your best in delivering an excellent job, that really grates -- particularly coming from critical vowels ;) I don't have any sure fire solutions for you other than to suggest that you continue to explain meticulously what you're doing as you're doing it. Maybe have an hourly time sheet and for each new hour that you're required to stay on, get that signed and approved. Bear in mind also that many company accounts department make this sort of thing a common practice. I used to work for a multinational network marketing company and one colleague's task was to contact every supplier, whether it was a one-person design company through to the stationery shop and haggle with their invoice totals. She got an extremely good strike rate and was frequently congratulated at staff meetings for saving the company money. I was mortified to be associated with them, as I was the one who sourced and accepted many quotes, and I would be the one dealing with, say, an angry designer who had basically been shafted. I ended up advising her to add an extra 10-20% to her quotes and use that to bargain with. The other thing is to hire a debt recovery service. I am in a union that, amongst other useful things, provides a very effective debt recovery to freelancers. I don't know if there's a similar one for computer gurus but look into it because, in Australia at least, it's tax deductible and a great source of industry updates and professional development. |
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Re: Suggestions on how I can avoid getting stiffed on a bill for services
From: pcventures-ga on 08 Mar 2004 12:26 PST |
aht-ga - could you repost your last one or two comments? I want to address your point as to whether you're answering my question. Thanks. |
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Re: Suggestions on how I can avoid getting stiffed on a bill for services
From: aht-ga on 08 Mar 2004 17:38 PST |
pcventures-ga: My apologies, but I normally do not keep copies of the comments I post as usually comments are retained by the system. In this case, it seems that the editorial response to your request that the inappropriate comments be removed, has also resulted in any comment referencing or responding to those comments also being removed. If I recall correctly, the gist of my comments was to suggest that a paper trail would be useful in cases (like those mentioned by stressedmum-ga) where the person approving/requesting the work, is not the person responsible for paying the work. From your responses to my previous comments, it is clear that you are already doing a good job of communicating with your clients what your hourly rate is, and providing some indication to them of how long a problem should take to fix. The additional input I provided was to reiterate the usefulness of making sure that communication is in writing, ideally with a written estimate signed off by the authorized person requesting the work prior to you beginning the work, so that you have a paper trail in case a situation should ever arise where you need to go to small claims court to receive compensation for your work. I then asked how you would like for your question to be addressed in the form of an Answer, so that a Researcher can provide you with value for your list price. If you can provide some form of guideline for this, then hopefully we can effectively address this question! Regards, aht-ga Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: Suggestions on how I can avoid getting stiffed on a bill for services
From: 4keith-ga on 09 Mar 2004 12:42 PST |
3-9-2004 Congratulations on having a valuable service to market. Perhaps in addition to just getting an office manager's signature for approval, you ABSOLUTELY NEED TO ask for the president's/CEO's (whoever the top person is) signature approval as well. Inquire at future clients whether or not they use a purchase order system in their accounting cycle, and perhaps you would submit a purchase order (offering a reasonable estimate of the total anticipated cost of your services) to them for their approval in advance and then when it comes time for payment you submit your invoice along with the purchase order and it speeds up payment. Everything you have done so far is correct--it's those irreponsible clients who are at fault. With incident 1, where the client only partially paid 60%, send the company president/CEO an immediate letter/demand for the overdue amount (send a copy to the office manager) and mention that if it is unpaid for more than a week you will have no choice but to pursue collecting the unpaid amount in small claims court. You have all the documentation you need to prove your case, and they will probably go ahead and pay without the time and aggravation they would have to be submitted to to defend themselves in court. With incident #2, the client has no right to get a second opinion about your services AFTER they have agreed to the price you quoted. Speak to a business law attorney and get yourself an simple, 1-page ironclad contract/fee agreement where the fee you quote when you first appear on the job is what the client signs and there will be no doubt or negotiations needed in the future about what they agreed to. You have every right to demand a premium price for your much-in-demand services and you are worth every penny (but I'm sure you already know that). SINCERELY, KEITH (Accountant) |
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