We are after a comparison of all available content management solutions.

I have come to realise that 'content management' is a catch all term
so i will give some more details.

We are wanting our customers to be able to edit their websites from a
browser. EG, change titles, add/move images, add/delete pages etc. It
also must support website design templates, with the ability to add
templates.

I know that there are many products on the market but we dont wish to
'pay per site', rather to buy the rights to the software (and code)
outright, allowing for use with unlimeted clients.

Please request clarification before you go ahead with the research,
just so that i can be sure that i have explained myself correctly.

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Request for Question Clarification by joseleon-ga on 09 Mar 2004 05:19 PST

Hello, bmcompany:

Nice to see you again around here, from what you say, I think you want
a list and a comparison of content management solutions that allow
users to edit the content of their websites, add new pages, images,
changes titles and also allow them easily to change the way the site
looks by using templates.
  
There are not so many solutions out there that gives the user so much
freedom and the most important, that are easy to use, but I will try
to do my best.
  
I will post a list with both opensource software and propietary
software that allows you to get the source code and use it for
unlimited clients.

Just tell me if this is what you want and I start my research right now.

Regards.

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Clarification of Question by bmcompany-ga on 09 Mar 2004 06:19 PST

hi there, joseleon-ga, nice to see you again.

Sounds like you have the hang of it, good luck.

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Request for Question Clarification by joseleon-ga on 09 Mar 2004 08:16 PST

Hello, bmcompany:

I have been researching for CMS tools capable to do the things you
need to, I have focused my efforts looking for tools with WYSIWYG
capabilities targeted to novice users with no HTML experience, here
are some results:

PortalApp
http://www.aspapp.com/apps/content.asp?ContentId=312

WAM
http://www.laurel.com/CMS.html

Versaria
http://www.hbgebs.com/article/article_control.asp?nextForm=fDetailArticle&id=267&originForm=fDependentArticle&class=2

Midgard CMS
http://www.midgard-project.org/cms/

Also, it could be interesting to you this CMS Report, which englobes
all CMS flavours on the market, although you are interested only in
Web Content Management:

CMS Report
http://www.cmswatch.com/TheCMSReport/

You can download a sample or buy the full version.

Just tell me if I'm going in the right path so I continue my research.

Regards.

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Clarification of Question by bmcompany-ga on 09 Mar 2004 08:24 PST

perfect, some good examples already

Hello, bmcompany:

The list of CMS availables is endless, there is a lot of them, each
one with it's own unique features, so I have tried to create a list
with the best, from the point of view of ease to use to novice users
with no HTML experience. One of the features I have been looking for
is that page editing is done with a WYSIWYG editor, here are my
results:

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PortalApp
http://www.aspapp.com/apps/content.asp?ContentId=312

PortalApp Benefits & Overview
http://www.aspapp.com/apps/content.asp?ContentId=288

Feature List
http://www.aspapp.com/apps/content.asp?ContentId=311

Screenshots
http://www.aspapp.com/apps/content.asp?CatId=111&ContentType=Images

PortalAPP 3.0 Demo
http://www.portalapp.net/

Free downloads
http://www.aspapp.com/apps/content.asp?ContentType=Downloads&keywords=free&do_search=1

Technology
ASP+SQL Server / Access

Cost
Commercial license, single (1) site, unlimited users
Standard $389.00 /per site
 
Commercial license, unlimited deployment, unlimited users
Reseller $4,995.00 /unlimited 
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Versaria vSite
http://www.hbgebs.com/article/article_control.asp?nextForm=fDetailArticle&id=267&originForm=fDependentArticle&class=2

Technology
ASP+SQL Server

To get a demo, get more info or get a quote, you will need to mail to:
salesandmarketing@hbgebs.com

Or call them
1-888-655-3406
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DoITLive!
http://www.doitlive.com/default.asp?V_DOC_ID=751

Technology
http://www.doitlive.com/default.asp?V_DOC_ID=753
ASP+SQL Server/Access

Cost
http://www.doitlive.com/default.asp?V_DOC_ID=830

Licensed version.
Full doITlive website editing suite
No time limit.
Upto 3 websites in one installation. (More possible with multiple licenses)
Unlimited documents.
Unlimited website members users.
Unlimited editing/admin users.
See here for a further explanation of Definition of limits.

$299 3 sites license

$99 Additional sites

I supose you will need to contact them to get an unlimited license:
sales@doitlive.com
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Code4Design
http://www.code4design.com/index.html

Tour
http://www.code4design.com/tour.html

Flash Tour
http://www.code4design.com/pages/215/Flash_Tours.htm

Free Trial
http://betaadm.www4.eonconnect.com/

Technology
PHP+MySQL

Cost
Cost is not very clear for your purposes:
https://www2.eonsecure.com/c4d/pages/229/Order_Form.html

I think you will need to contact them requesting a quote:
https://www2.eonsecure.com/c4d/pages/203/Contact_Us.htm
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And now the OpenSource features, before researching this answer, I
thought there were more free alternatives, in fact, there are, but
they lack, in general, the easy of use required to enable any kind of
user to publish content on the web, here are my opensource results:

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Midgard CMS
http://www.midgard-project.org/cms/

Download
http://www.midgard-project.org/download/

Cost
Free Software, GPL licensed

Technology
PHP+MySQL
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Plone
http://plone.org/

What is Plone?
http://plone.org/about/plone/

Demo server
http://demo.plone.org/

Download
http://plone.org/downloads

Technology
Zope

Cost
Free Software, GPL licensed
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eZ Publish CMS
http://www.ez.no/ez_publish/cms

Download
http://www.ez.no/ez_publish/download

Technology
PHP+MySQL

Cost
Free Software, GPL Licensed
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Also, it could be interesting to you this CMS Report, which englobes
all CMS flavours on the market, although you are interested only in
Web Content Management:

CMS Report
http://www.cmswatch.com/TheCMSReport/

You can download a sample or buy the full version.

Conclusion:
My personal opinion and because your purposes is that you go with a
commercial product, open source ones tend to be more powerful, but
harder to use and more complicated to install and manage, so if you
just want to allow your users to edit the pages, there is no need for
more complicated environments.

As in previous answers from me, this is an open answer, please, don't
hesitate to request for more info on an specific product, or even more
search results, this is not a problem and I will be glad to help you.

Regards.

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Request for Answer Clarification by bmcompany-ga on 11 Mar 2004 03:31 PST

Perfect, all i need to do now is find some time to go through it!

By the way, we could do with the Username and Password (and any other
relevant bits) for the MYSQL submissions DB.

Thanks for your time.

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Clarification of Answer by joseleon-ga on 11 Mar 2004 04:41 PST

Hello, bmcompany:

Thanks for the comment and for your tip, you are great!

Regarding your comment about the submissions DB, I don't understand it
very well, everything is working ok? If not, just tell me and I will
fix it.

Regards.

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Request for Answer Clarification by bmcompany-ga on 11 Mar 2004 06:44 PST

No problems with the DB whatsoever, if we had any problems, of course
we would let you know. Our programmer just wants the details to be
able to insert records from our in-house database.

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Request for Answer Clarification by bmcompany-ga on 12 Mar 2004 01:15 PST

user and pass?

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Clarification of Answer by joseleon-ga on 12 Mar 2004 02:06 PST

Hello, bmcompany:
  Sorry? Excuse me, but I don't understand what do you need, please,
explain and I will try to help you.

Regards.

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Request for Answer Clarification by bmcompany-ga on 12 Mar 2004 02:28 PST

When you made our submissions DB, you created a MySQL database. We
need the username and password for the MySQL database so that our
programmer can insert records from our in house database.

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Clarification of Answer by joseleon-ga on 12 Mar 2004 03:04 PST

Hello, bmcompany:
 Ok, the database was created when you opened your account, so it has
the same user and password you have for the site, in any case, that
values are stored on the config.php file on the site, just open it and
you will see them, I don't want to post them here ;-)

Regards.

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Request for Answer Clarification by bmcompany-ga on 12 Mar 2004 04:48 PST

Ok, much thanks!

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Clarification of Answer by joseleon-ga on 10 May 2004 08:06 PDT

Hello, bmcompany:
  You used the request question for clarification to answer a comment,
I'm just providing a clarification so this question is closed ;-)

Regards.

Thoughly researched. Found some info i wouldnt have found in a googol years

You may want to kick around here ...

http://www.cgi-resources.com/Programs_and_Scripts/Perl/File_Management/

Try http://typo3.com/ and won't have to look any further, believe me.

There is another version of the PortalApp CMS here
(http://demo2.aspapp.net). This is a great system.

There is a good site which compares many open source CMS -
http://cmsmatrix.org/ For reasonably priced offshore CMS setup
services take a look at http://www.sourcio.com.