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Subject: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: probonopublico-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 09 Mar 2004 09:37 PST
Expires: 08 Apr 2004 10:37 PDT
Question ID: 314926
Ominivorous turned up some interesting stuff in response to my #309103.

Bobbie7 has turned up some serious doubts on #314700.

So, would the Jury like to retire and consider its Verdict?

This is not 12 Angry Men; no one can change his/her mind and,
obviously no one should Vote twice. In the event of someone voting
twice, only the first vote will count.

When 12 Votes have been cast, the Judge will announce the Verdict by
way of an answer. In the event that 12 votes have not been cast by
December 31 2004, then the Judge can accept a minority verdict.

Kriswrite is invited to act as Judge and may give a casting vote in
the event of a hung jury.

Clarification of Question by probonopublico-ga on 10 Mar 2004 03:03 PST
C'mon Pinkfreud, Sublime1, Apteryx, Googlenut, Aht, Easterangel,
Feilong, RobertSkelton, Scriptor, Answerfinder, Policalguru, Bowler
(Where is Bowler these days?), Fp, Jem (Is she still away?),
Crabcakes, Angy, Eiffel, Feilong, Tisme, Leli, ...

Only TEN more votes required.

Clarification of Question by probonopublico-ga on 10 Mar 2004 03:05 PST
Oops, Answerfinder has already found an answer. Sorry!

As has Journalist. Who's Hedley?
Answer  
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
Answered By: kriswrite-ga on 17 Mar 2004 10:42 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
The oh-so-serious-and-absolutely-pure Judge hereby rules that
Easterangel is NOT GUILTY and that our dearest Hedy was definately a
spy, forced to pretend to be a mediocre actress.

Poor Hedy.

Your Most Honorable Judge,
Kriswrite

Clarification of Answer by kriswrite-ga on 17 Mar 2004 10:42 PST
P.S. Thanks for the fun :)
probonopublico-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
Many thanks, Kristina

Have a drop of Bubbly on me.

Warmest regards

Bryan

Comments  
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: answerfinder-ga on 09 Mar 2004 09:58 PST
 
10/10 for acting. Brilliant in Blazing Saddles. ;)
answerfinder-ga
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: journalist-ga on 09 Mar 2004 10:23 PST
 
"That's Hedley!!"



P.S. "Now go do that voodoo that you do so welllll!"
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: fp-ga on 10 Mar 2004 05:16 PST
 
Well, go to

http://nzz.gbi.de/NZZ.ein

and enter "vamp" and "intelligenz" as search terms.

How many results for these search terms? Since 1993!
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 10 Mar 2004 07:37 PST
 
Ja, Freddy, Dankeschoen

I visted the New Zealand Zuid site, and did the Search that you
recommended but I now need ...

Geben Sie Ihre Kreditkartennummer (VISA, Eurocard, American Express) ...

Auf Widersehen.

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 10 Mar 2004 07:38 PST
 
Oops, Again

Wiedersehen ... (I think)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: aht-ga on 10 Mar 2004 13:22 PST
 
probonopublico-ga:

The two options are independent of each other. Her acting skills and
her ability to grasp scientific possibilities were probably both
sufficient to accomplish what she did. So, my vote is 'and'.
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: bowler-ga on 10 Mar 2004 16:22 PST
 
Wooden Actress?

"Even in a period of often rather wooden acting the audience could
well get splinters just watching some of Lamarr's efforts."

Bowler-ga
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: bowler-ga on 10 Mar 2004 16:23 PST
 
Sorry, the above comment can be found on:

http://www.franklyncards.com/one/djan00.htm
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 11 Mar 2004 03:53 PST
 
Great Link, Bowler, & Great to have you around, again.

All the Best

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: apteryx-ga on 13 Mar 2004 10:47 PST
 
Sorry, Bryan, I didn't see this until it was closed, but I'm honored
to have been summoned by name.  Sometimes I don't browse the questions
for days, and this was one of those times.  I like your games and
would have been delighted to play.

How about an imaginative challenge of a literary nature, with a
transcontinental angle, you who devised the GA question that holds the
world's record for comments received?

Apteryx
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Mar 2004 12:41 PST
 
Hi, Apteryx

Great to hear from you again ..... BUT ...

The question isn't closed!

You are right though ... a literary challenge with a transcontinental
nature should be great fun .... (Very much better than this which has
been a very dead duck.)

Warmest regards

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 13 Mar 2004 18:17 PST
 
Hmm...are you sure you should trust me to be the judge? I mean, do you
even know where I got my law degree? Or what court I sit in! I might
be a ninth circuit court, for all ya know :)

Kriswrite
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 13 Mar 2004 21:08 PST
 
Hi Bryan!

Sorry, I was rather busy and didn't notice this one until today.

I really don't know the personality involved so I'll just throw in a
blind vote... Inventrix.

:)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Mar 2004 21:51 PST
 
Hi, Easterangel

Where have you been?

I sincerely trust that no member of the jury knows 'the personality
involved' otherwise he/she would be disqualified from sitting.

However, that is a matter for the Learned Judge and it would be
presumptious of me to comment whilst the case is sub judice.

By Order of the Court

PB (Queen's Counsel)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Mar 2004 21:55 PST
 
Hi, Kriswrite

Many thanks for your concerns.

However, I think that you've got the wrong idea about how Courts operate.

It's never a matter of 'trust' or 'competence' but simply a matter of
providing the necessary aurae.

Don't worry, I'll tip you off on what to do when the time comes. 

Trust me.

PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Mar 2004 23:55 PST
 
Now it can be told ?

Hedy Lamarr (1913-2000) was actually a secret agent employed by Kurt
Jahnke?s semi-private Intelligence Service, the Jahnkeburo. Jahnke
himself was, of course, a Soviet agent and, working to Jahnke?s
directions, she successfully infiltrated Austria?s largest armaments
company, Hirtenberger Patronenfabrik, by marrying the boss Fritz
Mandl.

Night after night, whenever Mandl was blind drunk, she took his safe
keys and copied all his closely guarded secrets, including the
revolutionary Frequency Hopping technology that quickly found its way
to Moscow.

There, the kindly Uncle Joe Stalin decided to help his American
friends by sharing his trophies with them, hoping no doubt that his
kindness would be reciprocated.

Hedy was therefore ordered to America where she was required to play
the part of a wooden actress. This she did so convincingly that many
of her critics failed to give her the credit that she truly deserved.

Is it now too late to give her the honours she deserved?

A posthumous Oscar perhaps?

Let the Jury decide!
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 14 Mar 2004 02:47 PST
 
Just got tangled up in some work out here.

I found Hedy over here!

http://www.clevernet.net/hedylamarr/

:)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: fp-ga on 14 Mar 2004 03:52 PST
 
Don't know how "official" this site is:
http://www.hedylamarr.com/about/about.php

Her ashes were brought back to Austria:
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/LAMARR.S%20ASHES%20RETURNED%20TO%20AUSTRIA
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Mar 2004 03:54 PST
 
Hi, Easterangel

You say that you found Hedy in the Philippines?

Man, that's sensational!

How did she look?

Please see if you can get her photo.

And tell me more ... Where was she? How did you find her? Was she
pleased to see you? Did you get her autograph?

PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Mar 2004 03:58 PST
 
Hi, Freddy

Many thanks for the further links ...

But have you noticed that Easterangel claims to have found the good lady herself?

I am now awaiting for further news from Our Man in Manilla.

Warmest regards

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Mar 2004 06:01 PST
 
OK, Kriswrite, Time for you to do your Summing up for the Jury.

I am sure that you will instruct them that this is a most unusual
trial because there is a charge of Wooden Acting which is a Criminal
Offence; and a charge of Patent Infringement which is a Civil Offence.

May I humbly suggest that you Order the Good Lady to be extradited
from the Philippines forthwith, so that she can be cross-examined in
Court?

Over to you.
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: googlenut-ga on 14 Mar 2004 09:23 PST
 
Hi Bryan,

I can't offer a personal opinion on Hedy Lamarr, but I can confirm
that her pictures are appearing in large ads on Boeing buildings in
the Los Angeles area.

Here's a story from the Boeing website. 

The stars come out
Recruiting ad featuring Hedy Lamarr creates 'buzz't
http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2003/november/i_nan.html


I guess that's a vote by Boeing in favor of her being an inventrix.

Googlenut
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Mar 2004 11:20 PST
 
Hi, Googlenut

Great to hear from you again.

And many thanks for your vote.

All the Best

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 14 Mar 2004 15:06 PST
 
Oh God ! You get me there Bryan! :)

Yeah just talked to her yesterday. She was ecstatic to finally had the
chance to meet me! :)

She just boarded a flight to London on Philippine Airlines no less! I
told her to meet a guy named Bryan (you) over there and said she
wouldn't miss the chance for the whole world!

Ok got to many punctuation marks in here! 6 in all. 

You've got to shout if you want to be heard from Manila to London though.
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Mar 2004 05:45 PST
 
Hi, Easterangel

I am afraid that your information on Philippine Airways is inaccurate.

You see, they don't fly to London!

This makes me suspect the rest of your story ...

Have you got some confessing to do?

A Worried PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 15 Mar 2004 08:12 PST
 
(Trying to send across the proper aura, according to probonopublico's suggestions.)

I rule that any determination be held over until the lady (or
impostor?!) can be removed from the Philippines and brought to GA
court for examination.

(Striking gavel.)

Probonopublico, would you like to examine her? (wink)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Mar 2004 10:27 PST
 
Your Honour (aka Kriswrite)

I would ask the Court to direct that a Witness Statement be obtained
from Easterangel; and also a Lie Detector Test; and also, if deemed
necessary, that an Extradition Order be issued.

I would also like Easterangel to be categorised as a Hostile Witness.

That, Your Honour, is my Humble Submission.

PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 15 Mar 2004 11:10 PST
 
I will grant your request that Easterangel be made to give a Witness
Statement. However, I cannot have a fellow researcher take a lie
detector test, nor be called a hostile witness...This *is* the good
ol- boy (and girl) system, ya know.

Kriswrite
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Mar 2004 13:02 PST
 
Your Honour

With the greatest respect, if you wish to have your usual brown
envelope at the end of the trial, then we should meet at the Lodge and
discuss matters over a few glasses of bubbly.

But 'Will I recognise you without your wig?' I ask myself.
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 15 Mar 2004 14:25 PST
 
My dear PB, even the most greedy--er successful--judge has to draw the
line somewhere. Shall we see how the Witness Statement goes before
you--how do you Brits say it?--get your knickers in a knot?

In the meantime, however, a glass of bubbly sounds fine. I'll be the
bald woman in red.

Kriswrite
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 15 Mar 2004 18:24 PST
 
It was actually a special flight only for Ms. Lamarr upon my request!
:) (Trying to hide a very red embarrased face for making such a claim
without checking with Philippine Airlines "woo hoo hoo")

Your honor since this was a special, secret and hurried flight i don't
have a receipt. But Ms. Lamarr left her glass slipper while boarding
the plane. Will this be enough as evidence?

http://www.disneyana-exchange.com/Photobin/Con-Glass.jpg
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 15 Mar 2004 23:25 PST
 
Your Honour

We now have a not very convincing 'explanation' from Easterangel and I
believe that the Court will understand my displeasure at having waited
all day at Heathrow Airport for the Good Lady in question.

I had also reserved a suite at Claridges, and my chauffeur-driven
Roller was waiting to tranport us both from the Airport to London.

A most frustrating day.

Nevertheless, Life moves on and I am now prepared to draw a line under
this most unfortunate episode.

By the way, you looked gorgeous in red and I really liked your hairstyle.

And Many Thanks for a lovely evening.

PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 16 Mar 2004 03:33 PST
 
Your Honor!

What about the glass slipper? Isn't that proof enough?
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Mar 2004 07:33 PST
 
Easterangel

I really must warn you that the English Courts take a very dim view of
PERJURY and that, within living memory, two politicians have actually
been jailed for such an offence (Jonathan Aitken and Lord Jeffrey
Archer).

(of course, Sir Bobby Walpole was jailed in the Tower for corruption
BEFORE he became Prime Minister ... but that's another story.)

PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 16 Mar 2004 07:44 PST
 
Ok ok bryan I give up!

Will I now be tried in the UK courts? At least that's  a good excuse
to visit London and for free at that! :)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 16 Mar 2004 10:42 PST
 
This case has more twists and turns than the O.J. Simpson trial! Who
was it that "tested" the shoe prints in that case?? Actually, let's be
original and use common sense. Those glass slippers? About as common
as dirt. Sorry Easterangel.

Kriswrite
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: fp-ga on 16 Mar 2004 11:34 PST
 
Searching for the shoes:

://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22lamarr+shoe%22
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Mar 2004 13:13 PST
 
Sorry, Easterangel

But the Learned Judge has spoken.

And, now Freddy (fp-ga) has discovered ANOTHER pair of shoes that
provide compelling evidence that the Good Lady has never even been to
the Philippines.

'Now', I ask myself, 'Why are Filipinos OBSESSED with shoes?' I am, of
course, thinking of my good friend Madame Marcos who also had (or has)
a shoe fetish.

I suspect that there is a very large shoe factory in or near Manila
and that it has a very switched on PR Department.

I have been advised that all the British jails are full and that there
is now a very long waiting list. (I've had my name down for 18
months.) It's even worse than our Hospital Waiting Lists.

You will have to take your turn. There's no queue jumping, not here in the UK.

PB
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 16 Mar 2004 15:11 PST
 
Your Honor! It's the shoe she left with me so what can I do? i don't
want to invent things. ( Ha ha ha! )

Bryan, us Filipinos, at least in my case, are very impressed with
ladies having great feet coupled with great shoes. (another Ha ha ha)

Anyway, since there is a long wait list for British jails then I shall
apply then to be in the custody of the Buckingham Palace. I nice long
chit chat with your queen would be nice. :)
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Mar 2004 06:59 PST
 
Hey Judge, Wake up! (Shake, shake)

You had a wee drop too much port with your lunch again.

You'll never make Lord Chancellor if you carry on like this.

The Jury has returned and the Foreman has handed the Usher a slip of
paper. (Presumably the Verdict?)

What is it to be?

Is Easterangel to be placed on Probation?

Or are you going to don the dreaded Black Cap?

C'mon, we are all agog.
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 17 Mar 2004 08:01 PST
 
Oh! Excuse me! (snort, snort!) Ahem.

Now then, since I have been paying perfect attention, I find that
Easterangel is NOT GUILTY and is free to go out in public and commit
another crime--er, that is...Easterangel is free to go.

Kristina
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Mar 2004 09:37 PST
 
OK, Learned Judge ...

Or may I call you Kristina?

Somehow, I don't think that Easterangel has any grounds for appeal
against the Verdict, so would you kindly formalise matters by posting
an Answer?

Many thanks for handling the Trial so professionally.


Warmest regards

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 17 Mar 2004 10:53 PST
 
Bryan~

If I may say so, you're a doll. I got way too many giggles outta this
one to also get a tip. Thank you!

Kristina
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 18 Mar 2004 02:32 PST
 
I really don't know whether to be glad or sad by Kristina's ruling.

I was already looking forward to my trip to the buckingham palace. I
even made a list of what to ask the queen during tea. Meanwhile about
tea, does it taste any different from the Lipton brand?

Easterangel-ga
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 18 Mar 2004 03:55 PST
 
Hi, Easterangel

Sorry to disappoint you (1) ... I could have also shown you The City
of London which (reputedly) is one mile square.

Sorry to disappoint you (2) ... I've never knowingly tasted Liptons
Tea; so I cannot advise. Me? I drink PG Tips which I prefer to all the
other stuff I've tried.

Why don't you come anyway?

Warmest regards

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: easterangel-ga on 18 Mar 2004 05:35 PST
 
Yes!

Too bad on both counts! :)

Anyway coming to London will be a dream come true for Filipinos like me indeed!
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: apteryx-ga on 28 Mar 2004 22:16 PST
 
I believe the story.

http://webpages.marshall.edu/~pbeheler/lamarr.html
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 29 Mar 2004 01:09 PST
 
Hi, Apteryx

Many thanks for the link and your endorsement of the story.

Now that Hedy has been discovered in a cave in Mexico, I think that
confirmation will soom be coming from the good lady herself.

Warmest regards

Bryan
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: kriswrite-ga on 29 Mar 2004 09:31 PST
 
Well, yes. It *is* true. You've found me out! I *am* the remarkably
well-preserved Hedy Lamar.

Foiled, 
Kriswrite
Subject: Re: Hedy Lamarr: Inventrix and/or Wooden Actress - 12 Votes required.
From: probonopublico-ga on 29 Mar 2004 10:59 PST
 
Oh, I do love a nice twist in the ending.

Many thanks!

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