is there a direct correlation between psychedelic rock music of the
60's and psychedelic trance of today?

please, i need this by this tuesday (25 june) night, it is urgent!!

can include information about the industries, record companies,
managers, public responses to the music, sub-cultures...

bands such as Pink Floyd through to dj's such as hallucinogen

Greetings!

The direct correlation between the Psychedelic Rock of the 60's and
the Psychedelic Trance of today, can be found in the use of
hallucinogens.  Let's examine the history leading up to the
Psychedelic Trance scene.

Sometime around the early to mid 60's, Goa, a state on the west coast
of India that was once a Portuguese colony, was discovered by a group
of travelers, including "Eight Finger Eddie", a pioneer of beatnik. 
Because of the moderate climate (it does not rain between October and
March), beautiful beaches, and inexpensive cost of living, Goa became
a place of retreat for hippies and travellers.

Goa is the starting point for a vibrant type of dance music named
after the area, Goa trance.  Goa trance is best described as
psychedelic dance music, or psychedelic trance.  An original icon of
the free love movement of the 60's, Goa was a place where the pagan
locals encouraged sex and free thinking.  A substance called "datura
weed" was the local source and ingredient needed to achieve a "trip". 
Datura weed, dancing, and the booming rhythmic beat of the native
music, pushed participants into a trance-like state of feeling giddy,
and insensible.  This feeling was a coveted way of life by the early
hippies, and advocates of sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll.

The 1960's was a time of revolution in music, art, politics,
lifestyles, technology, fashion, and the Leave it to Beaver way of
life.  People wanted to experiment and throw out conventional
thinking.  Dr. Timothy Leary was raving about the pleasures of LSD
(also known as Acid) to the fun loving, trip seeking individuals, old
and young alike.  The loud, distorted collage of experimental sounds
of the music of the era heightened the effects of the drug by causing
a more intense "trip".  Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, and the Who, were
among the favorites.

Flash Forward to Europe in the early 90's, when two major happenings
surfaced at the same time, Techno Rock and Ecstasy.

Ecstasy had been used in the United States as a tool for therapy, and
was quickly absorbed into already existing psychedelic scenes.  In
Europe, Ecstasy started a new scene, and it was soon coupled with the
new beat of Techno music and transported via a subculture of travelers
back to India.

In locations such as Katmandu, Anjuna, etc., the people making and
playing the new music, integrated the old hippie, acid-loving,
approach to life into the sound.  And soon they had molded and changed
the music to reflect their various feelings and belief systems,
culminating in the birth of Goa Trance, or Psychedelic Trance.

The more people used Ecstasy, they built up immunity to the effects of
the drug.  LSD differs in that aspect, as it will never cause a person
to be immune from it's effects.  Because of this, the people within
the psychedelic music scene, are reverting back to LSD as the drug of
choice, in order to achieve the narcotic-induced trance state.

I hope you find this information helpful.  I am listing many links to
various sites that will give many details concerning the
simililarities of Psychedelic Rock and Psychedelic Trance.  I have
also listed some sites concerning DJ's and general information. 
Enjoy!

It has been a pleasure to provide this assistance.


Links of interest:

Rave Network
A compilation of all aspects of Psychedelic Trance Music
including record labels, clubs, DJs, and events
http://www.rave-network.com/

Psytrance
Information about Psychedelic Trance music
including reviews, artists, and parties:
http://www.psynews.org/

Bjorn Lynne, artist
Article about his Psychedic Trance band, Divinorum:
http://www.lynnemusic.com/interview.html
Bjorn's trance project "Divinorum" official site: 
http://www.divinorum.com 

Wilson and Alroy's Record Reviews:
1960's Acid Rock
http://www.warr.org/overview.html

What is LSD?
http://crystal.biol.csufresno.edu:8080/projects/114.html

Sampling Paradise
The Technofreak Legacy of Golden Goa, by Erik Davis
http://www.techgnosis.com/paradise.html

Goa Gil
Credited for helping to develope the "Goa Trance" sound
http://www.pro-ton.info/goa_gil.htm

Zone Interzone
Articles include the changing of the guard as far as drug choices
are concerned.  From Ecstasy back to LSD.
Goa Trance-The History, by Jeff Maas
Goa Trance, by Clubdub and Cybernia
http://www.interzone.ch/goatrance.html

DJ Tranci$
Information about Psychedelic Trance DJ
http://trancis.topcities.com/home.html

Shane Gobi, DJ and Manager for Alchemy Records
Psychedelic Trance music
http://www.speedoflight.tv/shanegobi.html


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Hello Highasakite!

Unfortunately when I answered this question I included too much
copyrighted material so Google removed it.  Here's my answer with the
size of the quotes reduced.

The psychedelic movement of the late 1960s inspired a whole new style
of music in the form of psychedelic rock.  Since then, psychedelia has
been a recurring theme in many different genres of music, psychedelic
trance being one of more obviously linked.

A description of the psychedelic style of music is given at
http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html :

"It's tended to be applied to music that is mystical, drug induced or
designed to recreate the (psychedelic) drug experience. ...
Psychedelia is basically 'trippy', uses distortion, minor keys ... and
relates to consciousness expansion."

This article also lists the use of musical instruments which were new
to the rock and pop music genres.  These include sitars, theremins,
wind chimes and range electronic devices.

The psychedelic style therefore did not necessarily originate
specifically in the form of psychedelic rock, but was more an
influence which led to a variation from the norm in existing rock
music.  It is this same influence which inspires the similar
psychedelic style in some modern dance music.

Psychedelic rock first became widespread during the mid 1960s in the
USA, as described at http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html
:

"When these ... bands began experimenting with psychedelic drugs the
result was ... some of the most demented recordings ever made.  
...the lyrics started to deal with peoples dreams or more often their
nightmares.."

The psychedelic sound was further popularised by The Beatles, at first
subtly through the use of instruments such as the sitar by George
Harrison, as described by
http://www.popmatters.com/music/features/011206-harrison1.html :

"By making the most mystical tunes of the most popular band in the
world into sitar-drenched anomalies, George may have single-handedly
defined the aesthetics of the sixties in a unique way. "

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles was a hugely
popular album which really brought psychedelic rock to the masses. 
The following album review reiterates how important it was at the
time.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002UAU/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/202-8933145-3727834

"Before Sgt. Pepper's, no one seriously thought of rock music as
actual art. That all changed in 1967, though, when [The Beatles] ...
created an undeniable work of art which remains ... one of the most
influential albums of all time"

At the same time that psychedelia was so popular in the USA and UK, a
little known part of India called Goa has been found by a few hippy
enthusiasts.  This idyllic location was the scene of wild beach
parties fueled by hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD and also proved to
be further inspiration for the psychedelic sound.  Goa is now probably
better known for Goa Trance, a psychedelic style of the very popular
modern trance music.  The link Goa provided between psychedelic rock
and modern psychedelic trance is described in the following quote from
http://www.psynews.org/ :

"During the late sixties Goa had turned into a beach for freaks, rock
stars, travelers, and various other excitement hunters. ... A
hard-core group of Europeans and Americans have remained in that place
[and] ... started to further develop the style. "

Indeed, Goa Trance was hugely popular during the 1990s and was given
massive exposure by DJs such as Paul Oakenfold in his Goa mixes.  On
hearing this 'new' Goa Trance, dance music producers such as DJ
Hallucinogen (real name Simon Posford) were fast to look into the
psychedelic style seeking inspiration for modern electronic music.

Heard by a new generation, Psychedelic Trance was very popular from
the mid-1990s onwards and definite links were made between the new
sound and its roots in the 1960s.  The following review of an album by
DJ Hallucinogen highlights its similarities with Sgt. Peppers by The
Beatles.

Review from of  Hallucinogen : Twisted' , 1995 at
http://www.psynews.org/ by vm@alphatrance.org,  Wednesday, February 9,
2000

"I consider this to be one of the most important compositions of
modern times, right up there with 'Sgt. Pepper' and 'Dark Side of the
Moon'. Its influence may not be quite apparent yet, but give a few
dozen years and you'll see."

It is interesting to note that The Beatles produced Sgt. Pepper
shortly after returning from a trip to India.  I would suggest that
they may have visited Goa on their trip and have used it as
inspiration for their next album.

The other main influence in the return of psychedelia was the use of
hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD and MDMA for recreation while dancing
at discos.  Europeans, who are now the largest producers of trance
music, were introduced to two stimuli at around the same time and
psychedelic trance was the eventual outcome.  These stimuli are
described at :

http://www.interzone.ch/goatrance.html 

"In Europe, which had not seen much of a psychedelic scene during the
punk era, two things arrived at the same time - MDMA (Ecstasy) and
Detroit house and techno music."

Acts such as Orbital picked up on these influences and were quick to
use them in their music.  The following recollections from an Orbital
gig in the early 90s show the psychedelic style returning.

http://music.hyperreal.org/library/machine_soul.html

"The sound is techno but psychedelic references abound: in the light
shows, the fashions (everything ranging from beatnik to short-hair to
late '60s long-hair), the T-shirts that read 'Feed Your Head' ... ,
the polydrug use that is going on all around us."

Now, at the start of the 21st century, the dance music scene is
absolutely huge, and psychedelia has found itself a new incarnation in
the form of psychedelic trance.

The following quote from a book review of 'Kaleidoscope Eyes' by Jim
Derogatis sums up psychedelia, in that it never died between the 1960s
and now, and trance is merely its most current form.

http://www.makingtime.co.uk/bkrev997.html

"There is a thread which runs through psychedelic music ... from the
beginnings in the early 1960s through milestone records like Tomorrow
Never Knows, artists like the Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd up to
modern dance and hip hop culture."

In conclusion, there is a definite correlation between psychedelic
rock of the 1960s and the psychedelic trance of today.  This may not
be in the expected form of the same musicians or record companies
being involved, but is mainly due to a repeat in the drugs culture of
time, and the memories of inhabitants of Goa who stayed there after
the hippy parties of the 60s.


mcfly-ga

This is a couple years latter however I felt that it should be added
that all music is linked from early times and then regional musical
influences. It is said that the goa scene linked some major areas San
Fransisco being one of them. Some drugs were accesable and legal in
India until the US put presure on india to change this. The early goa
parties had bands etc.. dj's started popping up where psychadelic
music of the time was played however it is said they didn't spin
records they used tapes. So music from around the world found itself
at a nexus in goa. Although electronic music was happening all around
the world. Effectively over time by the mid 80's and early 90's the
goa scene had people that had left for various places around the world
promoted the music and started throwing their own parties in europe
etc.. In the mid 90's trance along with techno made major mainstream
pushes. Goa or psychedelic trance also known as dance trance and a
number of other names was a method of generalizing the sound. The link
is THEY ARE BOTH MUSIC they both emerged with new technology and for
many people there was an open drug culture in the 70's and
decreasingly so in the 80's and under pressures in the 90's
continuingly so. My geuss on this is that way back in the 70's this
stuff was all pretty new people hearing guitar etc.. under influences
of drugs could create new sounds which could be emulated using
electronic equipment. ITS MUSIC. Goa had/has a scene. That spread
music around the world from all around the world. As for the
connection? I dunno personally I find pink floyd or the grateful dead
drastically different then astraprojection maybe thats just me. ?? As
far as generalization goes perhaps on the more ambient side if it
sounds good its trance if it doesnt its rock :)  oh my. well. Ok you
can delete my post now.

I thought would also be useful to note that music in the 60&70's most
likely influenced everything after, that being the 80's, 90s and new
aeon2k. The likely evolution of psychedelic ambient/rock to
psychedelic trance would be during the techno evolution and
accesability of instramentation, trance tends to be a mother genre it
can have lots of different foci. During the 80's when techno / dance
was pop along with rock some artists sampled tracks, including rock
and most likely psychedlic rock. Adding more of a looped structure.
With the fathers of dance music james brown kraftwerk jmj etc.. (funk
techno etc..)which provided the bases of emulation although indepedant
evolution could be just as likely. So with new loops proliferation of
drum machines/groove boxes such as the roland-tb 303 you had points of
experimentation. From there you have artists that synthesize or use
premodled sounds for the same role that other instraments might have.
Of course OLD music is still modern you never lost the tribal drum you
never lost the human voice it is where the base of instramentation
expanded and the more experimentation occurs the more minglings
atleast in a logical sense that is intellegence that and the feelings
created by the current mind. So I would say psychedelic rock of
yesteryear is more "primal" "vintage" where as modern "trance" is
although now perhaps at the technological edge its sound scapes are
more varied. Psy rock may be where acid jazz , "experimental music"
is, for types of electronic music you have ambient music today or
chill out. Modern e music is just that EMUSIC its not called rock
anymore(well not that I'm aware of) Of course since rock and early ebm
are the mommy and dady of acid music and effectively surrogate to
trance with a bunch of other "genrelizations". Experimentation and
readily accessable instramentation. Genres are just that they classify
clumps of music to make it more definable. Music is instramentation
and application creating feeling. Specifically the artist you are
asking about not sure you'd prolly have to ask halluceniongen.
although here is a link to his webpage bio
http://www.shpongle.com/hallucinogen/frame-main.htm