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How to shoot slow motion video?
Category: Science > Instruments and Methods Asked by: morganf-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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18 Mar 2004 07:45 PST
Expires: 17 Apr 2004 08:45 PDT Question ID: 317950 |
How to shoot slow-motion digital video without buying a super expensive high speed camera? Are there *any* digicams under $3000 that can do this? I am very dissatisfied with creating slow motion using software, it is never smooth enough. Aaah, it was so easy with 8mm film... |
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Re: How to shoot slow motion video?
From: crabcakes-ga on 18 Mar 2004 19:03 PST |
Hi morganf, I researched some pretty fancy digital video cameras, over $2,000 and under $3,000, and none of them had a slow motion feature. I finally found a clue as to why: "In Hollywood, movies are shot they put a big roll of film into the camera and have it record at a very fast frame rate, and then play it back at regular speed. The effect is slow motion. In camcorder land, it?s impossible to get slow motion this way. Now we find out why. Part of the problem here is that people new to camcorders confuse shutter speed with frame rate. The frame rate of a camcorder is the number of times every second that the camera takes a picture of the world it sees. The shutter speed represents how long the frame stays open for to record any particular image. The shutter speed on camcorders is variable; the frame rate is not. For example, you would use a slow shutter speed in low-light situations to let in more light, but in bright situations you would use a fast shutter speed to restrict the amount of light coming in. A film camera is a lot more versatile than a camcorder, mostly because you don?t need to configure a film camera to connect to a television. Since a camcorder must connect to a television, it must share the same frame rate that the television displays, which is (basically) thirty frames per second. Camcorders are built from the ground up to conform to this standard, and it is impossible to change." http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/tweleve_questions_six.htm You might find some tips here on some creative work-arounds! Slow motion video tips Cineman http://www.cineman.co.uk/slow.html More tips Ron Dexter http://www.rondexter.com/ crabcakes |
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Re: How to shoot slow motion video?
From: sycophant-ga on 19 Mar 2004 03:14 PST |
Hi morganf, The answer to your question is going to be "no such camera exists", at least for the price you are looking to pay. I can go into great detail about why, but that's not what you asked really. There is only one actual variable frame-rate video camera, and that is the Panasonic Vari-cam ( http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/Products/cams_ccorders/f_aj-hdc27v.html ) and it does not come cheap. There are also high-speed cameras designed for industrial application, but they aren't a camcorder, and not really the same. There is also this product from Sony ( http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/ModelInfo?id=24879 ) used widely in live sports coverage for replay action. The camera is US$62,000 and it still requires more specialist hardware which costs about as much again. The common video standards are well defined at 30fps (NTSC) and 25fps (PAL). Cameras simply do not have any need to capture more information than this, and therefore, they don't. The technical problems with doing so, if they did are quite large two. For video-based slow-motion there are two options: 1) Software 2) Specialised (expensive) camera equipment Sorry I can't provide a better answer. Good luck. Regards, Sycophant-ga |
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Re: How to shoot slow motion video?
From: peter_devenv-ga on 22 Jul 2004 05:24 PDT |
I disagree with your reasoning. Filmcameras normally need to run at a speed (frames per second) that is the same as the projector. In the amateur world there used to be some freedom in here. 8mm users would run at 16 fps, Super 8 at 18 fps and 16mm and above would run at 24 fps. In Europe some cameras had a 25 fps setting to make conversion to TV/video easier (the European PAL system is 25 fps). So, the freedom for a Super 8 user would be to shoot at 24 or 25 fps to get a smoother projection at his own projector running at the same speed. However, someone shooting 35mm or Todd AO for large scale cinema would not have that freedom. Yet, slow motion meant higher camera fps and not an instruction for the operator in the movie theater to reduce projection speed (with a risk of burning holes in the film). Likewise, stop motion meant to shoot a still with a still camera and recording that on film at normal fps for the time you need it in the projection. In that sense the reasoning for a filmcamera (whose normal speed is dictated by playback) ought to be the same as for a camcorder. In short, we have to distinguish between recording fps speed and playback fps speed. Why would regular camcorders have no slow motion (by increasing camera fps and playback at normal fps) then? a) I guess (really guess) that electronics really would become much more expensive. If the electronics in the camcorder are able to read data from the CCD (the chip that acts like film), process it from raw to something that will be stored, subsequently store it on some storage medium 25 or 30 times per second, it should become much more powerful if you want to increase camera fps 2 times, 4 times, etc. b) I guess not many people would use it if it were available; you need to plan shooting it and your timing needs to be right. In the old 8mm days, it was on practically any camera, but I would say owners would use the feature maybe a few times in the camera's and their own lifetimes, if ever. Well, if you know of a consumer camcorder that does slow motion, please let me know. I guess the developers are putting their money in increased resolution, however, which maintains the problem under a). |
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