We are looking to buy the technology and equipment required to
manufacture fibre forms for concrete columns. One of the companies
that makes such fibre forms is SONOCO (see link below), but they do
not sell the technology, just the forms themselves.

http://www.sonoco.com/topnav/products+and+services/industrial+packaging/engineered+carriers/building+products+na.htm

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Request for Question Clarification by jbf777-ga on 23 Mar 2004 12:31 PST

Hello -

Are you looking to purchase the equipment needed to manufacturer the
actual paper stock in addition to the equipment to process it into
tubes, or just the equipment needed to process the (purchased) stock
into tubes?  As you might imagine, the difference between the two
would be thousands if not millions of dollars.

Thanks, 

jbf777

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Clarification of Question by i_ask-ga on 24 Mar 2004 04:43 PST

Just to process the (purchased) stock into tubes, please. I'd love to
get a rough idea about how much the paper stock is, if possible.

Hello -

I've spoken with three companies that make "tube-making" or "winder"
lines -- all the equipment necessary to make Sonotube-type, paper
"cores" used with concrete tubes.  The line generally consists of the
following equipment:

1. Backstand (paper feeder) 
2. Gluer 
3. Winder 
4. Cut-off saw
5. Optional recutter for more precise cuts

These tubes come in a variety of diameters, and the equipment to make
them can produce one (or more) diameters in a given range.  They vary
respectively in price.

Paper prices run about $480-$520/ton ($.24-$.26/lb), slit and
delivered. According to Mr. Emril at Paco Winders, the cost of the
adhesives is negligible.


TUBE-MAKING LINE/WINDER-LINE COMPANIES
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  1. Rockport Machine
     Contact: Mr. Robert L. Fulop
     http://www.rockportmachine.com
     15300 Industrial Parkway Cleveland OH  44135
     Ph: 216-433-1970 
     Fx: 216-433-0007 
     
     Estimated price: $65,000 - $80,000

  
  2. Paco Winders
     Contact: Emil Kiss
     http://www.pacowinders.com/
     2040 Bennett Road
     Philadelphia, PA 19116-3083
     Ph: 215-673-6265
     Fx: 215-673-2027

     Estimated price: $85,000-$150,000


  3. Appleton Mfg.
     Contact: David Rank
     http://www.amdpsi.com
     1025 Breezewood Lane
     Neenah, WI 54957-0618
     Ph: (800) 531-2002x2211
  
     Estimated price: $250,000-$300,000+


Note: Some companies may be factoring in additional equipment in the
estimates above.  There may be additional suppliers available in the
Thomas Register Directory:

http://www.thomasregisterdirectory.com/paper/paper_winders_0042140_1.html



POTENTIAL COMPANIES THAT MAKE PAPER FOR THIS APPLICATION
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You'll want to confirm with the individual companies above on exactly
what paper to buy (presumably boxboard paper) to work with their
equipment.

  1. Sonoco  Products Company
     http://www.sonoco.com
     N. 2nd St.
     Hartsville, SC 29551-0160
     Ph: 843-383-7000
     Fax: 843-383-7008

  2. Newark Group
     http://www.newarkgroup.com
     20 Jackson Dr.
     Cranford, NJ 07016
     Ph: 908-276-4000
     Fax: 908-276-2888

  3. Caraustar Industries, Inc.
     http://www.caraustar.com
     3100 Joe Jerkins Blvd.
     Austell, GA 30106
     Ph: 770-948-3101
     Fax: 770-732-3401


Feel free to ask for any additional clarification prior to rating this
answer.  Thank you.

Search strategy
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  Search term combinations of:
    paper 
    winding 
    tube 
    core 
    making 
  
  Use of Thomas Registry and Hoovers.com

A great answer. A quick answer. I have contacted the companies listed
by the researcher, and was able to get all the information I needed.
The names of people at those companies were especially helpful. 5
stars. Thank you.

Glad to hear!  Thanks for the rating, and please stop by again.

jbf777