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Q: how to get a new domain listed in google ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: how to get a new domain listed in google
Category: Computers > Algorithms
Asked by: libu68-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 25 Mar 2004 09:38 PST
Expires: 24 Apr 2004 10:38 PDT
Question ID: 320427

12 weeks ago I put 301 redirects on a couple of domains (each had PR4)
that were duplicates, then I submitted the new 'real' domain. As of
right now, those domains that I put the 301 redirects on are still in
Google's index and the new domain sits with a white PR bar. How do I
get Google to remove the old domains and index the new one? The domain
I'm trying to get indexed is The two I'm trying to
get removed are and


Subject: Re: how to get a new domain listed in google
Answered By: serenata-ga on 25 Mar 2004 15:12 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hi Lisa ~

When I perform a search for either or in Google, it shows no record of the site,

     "Sorry, no information is available for the URL

     * If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by
       clicking on the following link:
     * Find web pages that contain the term ""
   - ://

However, when I click on  find web pages that "contain the term", I
get a return of about 311 pages that contain the domain

Taking a look at the type of the pages that "contain the term", I am
finding a great many pages which are basically lists of links, some of
them categorized, others not.

Google and the other search engines do not like to be 'gamed', and it
had become too easy to form link exchanges, etc., for the sole purpose
of adding to the number of links to a site in the hopes of boosting
ranking in search engine results pages (SERPs).

It has recently been noticed that these type of links no longer work
to a web page's benefit - and Google and the others are getting back
to favorably weighting relevant links and, while "penalize" might be a
harsh term, those sites who rely mostly on pages of links or search
result links no longer rank so high in SERPS, and in some cases are no
longer in Google's directory.

This is to the benefit of the searcher, as it is the search engine's
main responsibility to return RELEVANT results.

Anecdotal evidence can be found in the discussions on Webmaster World,
and it is discussed - among other places - in Jill Whalen's High, both her newsletter and her discussion boards.

The link for the Webmaster World discussion of Google can be found here,

Jill Whalen's High Rankings site is here,

The three elements that are essential to getting listed and ranking
well for your search terms are:

1. Links;
2. Relevant content; and
3. Good basic HTML and user-friendly / search engine-friendly design.

Remember, Google says,

    "Submitting your site

    We add thousands of new sites to our index each time we crawl
    the Web, but if you like, you may submit your URL as well.
    Submission is not necessary and does not guarantee inclusion
    in our index. Given the large number of sites submitting URLs,
    it's likely your pages will be found in an automatic crawl
    before they make it into our index through the URL submission
    form. We DO NOT add all submitted URLs to our index, and cannot
    predict when or if they will appear."
   - ://

You might want to work on your links, getting more "relevant" links to
your site and less of the pages of nothing but links.

You can, of course, resubmit your site again using Google's Add URL
page, although there is no guarantee about if and when it will be
included. Google's Add URL page is here,
   - ://

As for removing the other two sites which you have redirected. You can
use Google's Remove function to request the two sites be removed. The
remove function can be found here,
   - ://

Important Google Links For Your Reference

I have included important links from Google's site. This information
will help you understand Google's goals and responsibility to the web
searcher (and not the webmaster or site owner).

Webmasters who follow the guidelines and avoid Google's "Thou shalt
nots" usually have no problem getting listed and showing up under the
search terms they desire.

   * Google Today (absolutely the best information you
     can read about the "how and why" of Google's results
     - ://

   * How Do I Get My Site Listed on Google?
     - ://

   * My Web Pages Are Not Currently Listed (a good 'primer'
     on how and why Google works so well)
     - ://

   * PageRank Information (covers both Google's PageRank and
     - ://

   * Webmaster Guidelines (contains both the dos and don'ts)
     - ://

   * Google Facts & Fiction (can  you buy your way to a
     high ranking in Google?)
     - ://

   * Search Engine Optimizers (some good advice on what to look
     for if you're going to hire a Search Engine Optimizer)
     - ://

   * Frequently Asked Questions (pretty much what it says, but
     definitely worth wading through)
     - ://

   * Remove Content from Google's Index (just in case you feel
     a burning need to start all over again)
     - ://

Other Sources of Information

There is also good information from many of the top search engine
optimization experts, such as

   * Detlev Johnson, Search Engine Guide

   * Danny Sullivan, Search Engine Watch

   * Jill Whalen, High Rankings

   * Shari Thurow, Web Pro News (and quoted all over the Internet)

who all have columns or newsletters to which you can subscribe and
keep abreast of the best way to use good content for better
positioning in search engine results.

In addition, Webmaster World - - has
discussion boards on most of the search engines. While some of the
discussions are anecdotal and/or questions for information, there is
usually enough discussion to keep abreast of what seems to be

Webmaster World includes an entire section devoted to Google at:

It never hurts to keep track of the discussions; but remember, trying
to optimize for search engines only is like trying to hit a moving
target. You'll notice among the more experienced contributors to the
discussions - plus the SEO experts listed above - that there really is
no substitute for content, relevant links and good HTML.

Search Terms

Except for the specific searches listed above, the information
included in this answer is information from reliable resources and
bookmarks I use daily as references in my usual course of business.

Best wishes,

Google Answers Researcher
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