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Q: ski chalet improved free listing ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: ski chalet improved free listing
Category: Sports and Recreation > Travel
Asked by: united-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 26 Mar 2004 04:38 PST
Expires: 25 Apr 2004 05:38 PDT
Question ID: 320696
We currently bid on the term 'ski chalet' and 'ski chalets' for our
website . We are considering changing the url
name to if we are correct in thinking that it is
more likely to appear in the free listing section if the url title
incorporates both words 'ski' and 'chalet'.
Is our logic correct? If more people use the plaral version i.e. 'ski
chalets' should our url also need to incorporate the plural? Would the
use of a hypen improve the url e.g ski-chaletfinders?
Subject: Re: ski chalet improved free listing
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 26 Mar 2004 05:17 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
Hi there,

There are two aspects to your question, so I've addressed them individually.

Keywords in the URL
When all other factors are equal, a web page with the keyword in the
URL (especially the domain name) will rank higher than one that

The most important aspect of this is that if the words are all joined
together, as in, then it will only make a
difference if someone searches for the word skichaletfinders. For a
multi-word domain name to affect search ranking it needs to have
hyphens between each word.

It is quite noticable in search results that keyword URLs do well.
Most of the advantage comes from links to the site that use its name.
For example, if your site is called, I would
link to it using "Black or Blue Widgets", if that is the name of your
site (as presented in the logo and/or title).

But for the algorithm to give extra points to a site for keywords in
the domain name, you need hyphens. The very big downside to this is
that as search engine users become more experienced, they are
realising that hyphenated-domain-names tend to be spammy. Which means
they are less likely to visit your site.

Plural or not?
Google uses stemming - when you search for a word, Google will provide
results that contain almost matches to that word, including plurals.
This is recent - Google originally only found precise matches. From
reading posts at I have formed an opinion that the
weight given by Google to stemming varies considerably from time to
time. Sometimes they appear to have switched it off. There is no way
of telling at present if using the plural as your main keyword is a
good or bad move.

Keywords in links to your site are more powerful than having them in
the URL.  Having hyphens in your URL looks spammy.

I suggest that you stick with your current URL, but rename your site. 

Instead of the name of your site being, call it
"Chalet Finders". That way you get the power of having the keyword
"chalet" in the page title and in links to your site.

Even better would be to use, and calling your
site "Ski Chalet Finders" - having two keywords in the domain is
better, but the downside is the work involved to change the URL of
your site.

Finders isn't really a keyword, so it doesn't matter that it is
plural. If you think the plural sounds better, keep it.

If any part of my answer is unclear, or if you have further questions
on this topic, just request a clarification and I'll get back to you.

Best wishes,
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