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WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
Category: Computers > Operating Systems Asked by: kaan-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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30 Mar 2004 17:55 PST
Expires: 29 Apr 2004 18:55 PDT Question ID: 322708 |
I have been having performance problems with Windows Explorer since I built a new PC with Windows XP. I am running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 on an AMD Athlon XP 2100+ with 512 MB of RAM. I have dual 80GB Maxtor ATA133 7200RPM hard drives, the second being used only for weekly backups. I collect cover scans from old magazines, paperback books, comic books, and similar popular culture material. I currently have about 130,000 scan files filling 20GB of my 80GB hard drive. The scans are organized in a directory hierarchy that has most of the files three to five levels deep. Here's a typical sample path: C:\ZData\a-Publishing\Comic Book Interesting Covers\aa-Fiction House Comics\Fight Comics Most of the directories have a few hundred files in them, although they range from two files to one huge directory that holds over 8,800 files. My specific performance problem is that it takes almost a minute to navigate down to a subdirectory the first time. When I select C:\ZData, the PC hard drive churns for 20-30 seconds before it shows me the five subdirectories under ZData. That painful process repeats with each directory level. After the first time, most directories will open instantly, although there is still an occasional 10 to 15 second delay. This is a shared drive, and opening the same directories using a different PC on my network is virtually instantaneous. I use Windows Explorer set to View Details, and on the rare occasion that I change to View Thumbnails, the files are displayed sequentially, to the accompaniment of much hard drive activity. Do you have any idea what my computer is doing during these delays? And do you have any suggestions to improve performance? I spend a lot of time in Windows Explorer, and my old PIII 550 running WIN98SE was (and still is) a lot faster than my current setup at this particular task. | |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: nexex-ga on 30 Mar 2004 18:55 PST |
First make sure you have you windows patched to the latest version and have Service Pack 1 installed. Second, try registry fix #2 "Increase Folder View Size Limit to 8000" at this page: http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm Third, See MSKB 819017 "Long Delay Before Files Appear in My Computer in Windows XP" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;819017&FR=1&PA=1&SD=HSCH |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: kaan-ga on 30 Mar 2004 20:29 PST |
Thanks for your suggestions, nexex. Here is some feedback. I will back up my PC tonight and try installing Service Pack 1 tomorrow evening. I'd been avoiding the Service Pack because I had read that it created problems in some cases. I tried registry fix #2, but it does not make any difference. The only portion of MSKB 819017 that applied to my setup was that Windows Image Acquisition was running. I tried stopping that service, but it made no detectable difference in the time required to open a directory. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: aht-ga on 30 Mar 2004 20:34 PST |
kaan-ga: Do you happen to have a hard drive controller that allows you to 'optimize' your hard drives for acoustics, power management, etc.? I do, and for my Maxtor HD, setting it to minimum acoustic output just kills the access speed compared to my Seagate Barracuda IV. I now have it set to maximum performance, and just live with the periodic drive head arm noise. A little noise is better than waiting for the hard drive to decide to retrieve the data I'm looking for. aht-ga Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: xeno555-ga on 30 Mar 2004 22:44 PST |
Switch your directory view to details, and make sure your drives are NTFS (you can convert to NTFS if need be) |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: thedors-ga on 31 Mar 2004 07:41 PST |
1. Go to Run in the startmenu 2. Type gpedit.msc 3. Click OK and the Group Policy will open 4. Go to User Configuration/Administrative Template/Windows Components/Windows Explorer 5. Scroll down to the bottom of the long list of stuff that now shows up in the menu on the right. Double-Click on Turn off caching of thumbnail pictures. 6. Click on Enable then Apply, Ok. And now you no longer have this annoying problem. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: thedors-ga on 31 Mar 2004 07:45 PST |
forgot my last comment, to solve your problem you must: go to Control Panel > Folder Options > View > "Do not cache thumbnails" |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: kaan-ga on 31 Mar 2004 19:02 PST |
nexex, I've installed Service pack 1 and 30-some priority updates. Windows Explorer does behave differently now. If I click on the "+" next to the folder name in the left pane, it still takes a long time to display subfolders in the left pane. However, if I click on the folder name, most of the time (not always)the subfolders are displayed immediately in the right pane. At least some success points can be awarded to nexex. The situation is significantly improved. Thanks! - - - - - aht, I don't have a hard drive controller that allows adjustments to performance. Thanks for trying. - - - - xeno555, my hard drive was already NTFS, but thanks for checking. - - - - thedors, I tried setting Folder Options > View > "Do not cache thumbnails" some time ago. I could not try your suggestion to run gpedit.msc. I could not get gpedit.msc to run. I'm running XP Home. Does gpedit.msc require XP Server? |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: mysteryrain-ga on 21 Apr 2004 11:27 PDT |
in windows explorer right click on the c:drive(your main hard drive) then click tools then defragmentation. Analyze your drive to see if it needs to do this. If it does you will se a lot of red or black.this might help. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: deektator-ga on 02 May 2004 21:37 PDT |
You might be experiencing the same thing I was. I have a directory similar to yours, but with gigs upon gigs of zips. I'm an Oracle DBA so I download tons of Oracle Applications. As WinXP loads a directory, it displays zip files as navigatable 'folders'. Doing so, however, causes XP Windows Explorer to load slower than sin. Try this: Not Viewing Zip Files as Folders (Added 3/4/04) If you want to turn of WindowsXP showing Zip files as folders, just run: regsvr32 /u zipfldr.dll Source: http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm#zip_files_folders |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: kaan-ga on 03 May 2004 04:38 PDT |
Thanks for your suggestion, Mysteryrain. Unfortunately defragging made no perceptable difference. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: vono_97-ga on 07 May 2004 13:55 PDT |
Re: thedors-ga's solution - thumbnail caching disable Worked like a charm. Thanks so much for posting this! You've saved me hours of aggrevation! |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: zimmer-ga on 11 May 2004 17:09 PDT |
I believe I have found the problem. If you have Photoshop installed on your computer an option is set by default on all images to show a thumbnail. You need to turn this off. Right click on any image (thumbnail) select properties > then select the tab called Photoshop Image > deselect the check box Generate Thumbnails (then ok out of the tab window to save your new settings) By doing this you will affect all thumbnails (so don't worry about doing this to all image files). I had the same problem you were describing and this solved everything. Thumbnails now show almost instantly. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: kaan-ga on 11 May 2004 19:27 PDT |
Zimmer, I have Photoshop 7 installed on my PC, but when I right-click on an image file in Windows Explorer, I do not see a tab called Photoshop Image. Please clarify. Thanks. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: zimmer-ga on 18 May 2004 14:29 PDT |
Kaan, after you right click on an image file in windows explorer you must do one more step -select properties. This will bring up a tabed window (should be three tabs to select from) where the 2nd tab is titled 'photoshop image'. From there you will deselect the checkbox for create thumbnails. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: kaan-ga on 18 May 2004 17:20 PDT |
Zimmer, that is the procedure I was following. However, I only get two tabs instead of the three you describe. Are you getting the third tab because Photoshop is the program associated with your image files? (I use Vuepro as my default image viewer.) Or perhaps it relates to some setting in Windows Explorer. Kaan-ga |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: zimmer-ga on 18 May 2004 17:55 PDT |
Kaan, I really do believe it has to do with Photoshop 7. I'm perplexed as to why you don't have a third tab in your properties box. However try checking out this site - http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004nJK - Some have uninstalled photoshop, some have removed/changed file associations away from PS, others used the trick I did. Good luck. |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: randot-ga on 21 May 2004 09:20 PDT |
I just had a very similar problem. Windows Explorer took forever, computer was locking up, etc. Downloading the new version 1.3 of SpyBot, updating the definitions, and running it revealed two pieces of spyware that the old SpyBot and AdAware 6.0 hadn't picked up. I eliminated them and everything works fine, now. RandoT |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: karachi1234-ga on 24 May 2004 15:53 PDT |
I once had a similar problem with my picture folders, but a simple solution fixed it. Right-click on the affected top layer folder. Click "properties", click the "Customize" tab. In the "Use this folder type as a template:" field, choose "Pictures(best for many files)". Check off "Also apply this template to all subfolders". Click "Apply". |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: randot-ga on 25 May 2004 12:44 PDT |
My previous comment about SpyBot and AdAware turned out not to be a permanent fix. Now I don't know what's going on, either. "My Computer"/Windows Explorer is still very slow and unstable, although it's much faster when other programs are closed. This might mean that the processor is working too hard on some background process and can't handle the load. Could this be related to constant indexing of the files and folders as part of a "quick find" feature? RandoT |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over network
From: mjmccoy9-ga on 26 May 2004 12:37 PDT |
I had exactly the same type of behavior, not on one, but on multiple clean-install machines). Let's say for example, say five local drives existed on my current computer - and only one of them responds slowly in Windows Explorer, the rest respond normally. I did some experimenting and checking, and there was no abnormal amount of content on the problem drive. But.... it DID have zip files located on the drive's root. So, to test, I moved the zip files to a subdirectory, opened the drive, and response returned to normal. This was on multiple drives, on multiple machines. So I believe unregistering the winzip hook from the explorer shell is the right answer (regsvr32 /u zipfldr.dll). It worked for me, on all of my XP boxes. Mike McCoy |
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Re: WinXP Windows Explorer slow to open folders on local PC but quick over netwo
From: randot-ga on 27 May 2004 10:23 PDT |
Mike, I tried this .zip file suggestion and it seemed to help for that session. But after overnight shutdown and restart, the same problem happened again. The really odd thing is that the explorer window takes forever to come up, but if I minimize other open windows, it speeds the process up. This is what makes me think there's something running in the background that's taking up a lot of processor time. Puzzling.... Randy |
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