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Q: old vw convertible ifo ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: old vw convertible ifo
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: rogerg-ga
List Price: $2.50
Posted: 01 Apr 2004 12:14 PST
Expires: 01 May 2004 13:14 PDT
Question ID: 323697
I have a '73 vw convertible, mfg. 10/72.  Is this vehichle a beetle or
"super" beetle?
Subject: Re: old vw convertible ifo
Answered By: skermit-ga on 01 Apr 2004 12:52 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hello rogerg-ga,

From what I've read, I can't tell you whether it's a Super Beetle by
just the manufactured date or year model. I have however found a page
called "Standard VS Super Beetles". It lists:

The Super Beetle, although appearing much like any other beetle of the
time was a very different animal, many people assume it was "faster"
or had a bigger engine, this is not true, it's rear suspension and
drive train was identical to Standards of the time. In fact, for the
1971 and PART of the 1972 model years, everything from the back side
of the front hood to the rear bumper was the same as a Standard Model.

The biggest difference for Super Beetles was the newly designed Front
Suspension, utilizing MacPherson Struts. This also facilitated
redesigning the front trunk area for added cargo space (the spare tire
was able for the first time to lay down flat in the very front of the
car) and the Hood, Fenders and Front Apron were redesigned and differ
from Standards because of these changes.

Also for model years 1972 1/2 - 1974* There was a curved windshield
for the first time in Beetle production, and along with that came a
redesigned dash (the first variation from a "flat panel" ever on a
Beetle). 1971 & some 1972 Supers got the same flat glass and dash as
Standard Models had and continued to have, but the changes to the
front suspension were there.

The goes onto list the defining points of the Super Beetle:

Key Identifiers:

First - Look for a Curved Glass Windshield (but beware, it can still
be a Super without it!)

Then Look at the Front overall - The Super had a much more "Rounded,
Bulbous Hood & Fenders (the Standard had much more of a "Point" to the
front edge of the hood), Also the Super Beetle has a Slotted Front
Apron under and behind the bumper (this may or may not be true of
European Models)

Lastly, if you still can't tell - Look Behind a front wheel, is there
a large round "Spring"? That is a MacPherson Strut, it is the final
word in telling Supers vs Standards apart. A Standard Beetle, Type 3,
Karmann Ghia, and Bus, are all suspended in the front by Torsion Bars,
they look like 2 parallel lines running from wheel to wheel, with arms
coming off the top and bottom of them at the wheels holding the
spindle the wheel is held to.

There's more information on the webpage itself, so I kindly direct you
to page below. The website seems to be down, but thankfully, I found a
Google cache of it.

Online reference:

Thank you for your question, and it was a pleasure for me to answer it.

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