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Subject: simple latin translation ($10.00 tip)
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: sceleratus-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 04 Apr 2004 01:00 PST
Expires: 04 May 2004 02:00 PDT
Question ID: 324869
Need the following simple passage translated by 11:00pm US pacific
time on sunday april 4, 2004.

http://www.geocities.com/sceleratus_magnus/latpassage.tif

-Keep the paragraph structure relatively constant (line by line).
-No explaination required, just translation
-Easy passage, but am too busy to do it. 

Pocket an easy $10+ for speedy translation

Thanks,
Sceleratus

Clarification of Question by sceleratus-ga on 04 Apr 2004 05:23 PDT
fixing problem.... apparently, geocities requires an index.html page
before any files (like my .tif) can be viewed.

Clarification of Question by sceleratus-ga on 04 Apr 2004 05:26 PDT
if direct link to .tif doesnt work, it can be accessed from here:
http://www.geocities.com/sceleratus_magnus/index.html
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Subject: Re: simple latin translation ($10.00 tip)
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 04 Apr 2004 08:00 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Here is a translation of the paragraph; I even tried to keep the
inconsistent use of tenses from the Latin text, though it looks a bit
weird, in my humble opinion:


While Camillus was at Veii, the Citadel of Rome was in imminent
danger. The Gauls had seen the footprints of the man who had come as a
messenger from Veii to Rome, and by night they climbed onto the
citadel hill in such a way that they not only slipped by the sentries,
but they did also indeed not even wake up the dogs. Nevertheless, they
did not slip by the geese, which were sacred to the goddess Iuno and
still alive, since the Romans refused to eat them although they had no
rations. That fact brought them salvation, because the commotion
aroused Marcus Manlius, a famous soldier who had been consul three
years before, who snatched his weapons and called the others to the
arms; a Gaul who stood on the summit knocked him down.
Meanwhile, Camillus returns to the city, provokes the Gauls to battle
and then draws up the army. The Gauls, alarmed by the new situation,
drag off the arms and planlessly run into the Romans. Therefore,
Camillus has easily overcome them and and seized the camp. The
citizens were addressing him by the praises "second Romulus" and
"veritable father of his country".


Hope this is what you needed!
Regards,
Scriptor
sceleratus-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
Gratias multas! $10 tip as promised

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Subject: Re: simple latin translation ($10.00 tip)
From: fp-ga on 04 Apr 2004 03:20 PDT
 
Which "simple passage"?

Your "page is not available".

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Subject: Re: simple latin translation ($10.00 tip)
From: hlabadie-ga on 04 Apr 2004 08:10 PDT
 
As Camillus pressed this [the seige] at Veii, there was enormous
danger meanwhile in the Roman citadel. Now the Gaus had seen the
footprints left by the Roman messenger where he came from Veii, and at
night they climbed to the citadel's summit. Thus they escaped the
notice of the sole watchman, and not even the dogs were aroused.
However, they didn't escape the geese, which were sacred to the
goddess Juno and were living there still, which the Romans, although
they had no food, dared not to eat. It was this that was their
salvation, for they were aroused by the noise of them. Marcus Manlius,
who was consul three years before, a man outstanding in war, snatched
up his arms and called others to arms as well, and he hurled down a
Gaul who had stood there [on the cliff's edge].
In the end, Camillus returned to the city and challenged the Gauls to
battle. Thereupon he drew up the army. The Gauls, startled by this new
event, grabbed their weapons and hastily closed with the Romans
without making a plan. Thus Camillus was able easily to overcome them
and capture their camp. His fellow citizens not without good reason
acclaimed him the second father of the country.

hlabadie-ga
Subject: Re: simple latin translation ($10.00 tip)
From: sceleratus-ga on 04 Apr 2004 08:19 PDT
 
hlabadie-ga, thank you for your additional input. It will also be useful.
Subject: Re: simple latin translation ($10.00 tip)
From: corwin02-ga on 05 Apr 2004 07:17 PDT
 
Scriptor , the reason it looks weird is because it is an excerpt of a
much longer text  (quoted below)

Livy 5.47

While these proceedings were taking place at Veii, the Citadel and
Capitol of Rome were in imminent danger. The Gauls had either noticed
the footprints left by the messenger from Veii, or had themselves
discovered a comparatively easy ascent up the cliff to the temple of
Carmentis. Choosing a night when there was a faint glimmer of light,
they sent an unarmed man in advance to try the road; then handing one
another their arms where the path was difficult, and supporting each
other or dragging each other up as the ground required, they finally
reached the summit. So silent had their movements been that not only
were they unnoticed by the sentinels, but they did not even wake the
dogs, an animal peculiarly sensitive to nocturnal sounds. But they did
not escape the notice of the geese, which were sacred to Juno and had
been left untouched in spite of the extremely scanty supply of food.
This proved the safety of the garrison, for their clamour and the
noise of their wings aroused M. Manlius, the distinguished soldier,
who had been consul three years before. He snatched up his weapons and
ran to call the rest to arms, and while the rest hung back he struck
with the boss of his shield a Gaul who had got a foothold on the
summit and knocked him down. He fell on those behind and upset them,
and Manlius slew others who had laid aside their weapons and were
clinging to the rocks with their hands. By this time others had joined
him, and they began to dislodge the enemy with volleys of stones and
javelins till the whole body fell helplessly down to the bottom. When
the uproar had died away, the remainder of the night was given to
sleep, as far as was possible under such disturbing circumstances,
whilst their peril, though past, still made them anxious.

At daybreak the soldiers were summoned by sound of trumpet to a
council in the presence of the tribunes, when the due rewards for good
conduct and for bad would be awarded. First, Manlius was commended for
his bravery, and rewarded not by the tribunes alone but by the
soldiers as a body, for every man brought to him at his quarters,
which were in the Citadel, half a pound of meal and a quarter of a
pint of wine. This does not sound much, but the scarcity made it an
overwhelming proof of the affection felt for him, since each stinted
himself of food and contributed in honour of that one man what had to
be taken from his necessaries of life. Next, the sentinels who had
been on duty at the spot where the enemy had climbed up without their
noticing it were called forward. Q. Sulpicius, the consular tribune,
declared that he should punish them all by martial law. He was,
however, deterred from this course by the shouts of the soldiers, who
all agreed in throwing the blame upon one man. As there was no doubt
of his guilt, he was amidst general approval flung from the top of the
cliff. A stricter watch was now kept on both sides; by the Gauls
because it had become known that messengers were passing between Rome
and Veii; by the Romans, who had not forgotten the danger they were in
that night.

Livy 5.49

But gods and men alike prevented the Romans from living as a ransomed
people. By a dispensation of Fortune it came about that before the
infamous ransom was completed and all the gold weighed out, whilst the
dispute was still going on, the Dictator appeared on the scene and
ordered the gold to be carried away and the Gauls to move off. As they
declined to do so, and protested that a definite compact had been
made, he informed them that when he was once appointed Dictator no
compact was valid which was made by an inferior magistrate without his
sanction. He then warned the Gauls to prepare for battle, and ordered
his men to pile their baggage into a heap, get their weapons ready,
and win their country back by steel, not by gold. They must keep
before their eyes the temples of the gods, their wives and children,
and their country's soil, disfigured by the ravages of war-everything,
in a word, which it was their duty to defend, to recover or to avenge.
He then drew up his men in the best formation that the nature of the
ground, naturally uneven and now half burnt, admitted, and made every
provision that his military skill suggested for securing the advantage
of position and movement for his men. The Gauls, alarmed at the turn
things had taken, seized their weapons and rushed upon the Romans with
more rage than method. Fortune had now turned, divine aid and human
skill were on the side of Rome. At the very first encounter the Gauls
were routed as easily as they had conquered at the Alia. In a second
and more sustained battle at the eighth milestone on the road to
Gabii, where they had rallied from their flight, they were again
defeated under the generalship and auspices of Camillus. Here the
carnage was complete; the camp was taken, and not a single man was
left to carry tidings of the disaster. After thus recovering his
country from the enemy, the Dictator returned in triumph to the City,
and amongst the homely jests which soldiers are wont to bandy, he was
called in no idle words of praise, "A Romulus," "The Father of his
country," "The Second Founder of the City." He had saved his country
in war, and now that peace was restored, he proved, beyond all doubt,
to be its saviour again, when he prevented the migration to Veii. The
tribunes of the plebs were urging this course more strongly than ever
now that the City was burnt, and the plebs were themselves more in
favour of it. This movement and the pressing appeal which the senate
made to him not to abandon the republic while the position of affairs
was so doubtful, determined him not to lay down his dictatorship after
his triumph.

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