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Subject: Scooter
Category: Sports and Recreation
Asked by: henry1-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 04 Apr 2004 11:06 PDT
Expires: 04 May 2004 11:06 PDT
Question ID: 325025
What is the brand name of a scooter made in the 80's that the rider
moves by jumping up and down on it (no electric or gas)?

Request for Question Clarification by bobbie7-ga on 04 Apr 2004 12:57 PDT
Hi henry1!

Could this be the scooter you have in mind?
http://68.15.21.151/uploads/researchers/scooter.jpg

Thanks,
Bobbie7

Clarification of Question by henry1-ga on 05 Apr 2004 08:15 PDT
I am seeking a single platform scooter unlike the scooter shown by
bobbie7. Denco is on the right path. It is a single platform scooter
powered in the way Denco describes. Thanks for continuing to try and
help me.

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 05 Apr 2004 08:36 PDT
I think what you are after is the KICK-N-GO SCOOTER, a once quietly
marketed product from the folks at Honda. Does this answer your
question?

http://www.dropbears.com/c/clems_cargo/antiques/kick-n-go/

http://www.aibq.com/belize/99144.html


tutuzdad-ga

Clarification of Question by henry1-ga on 05 Apr 2004 09:15 PDT
The scooter I am seeking is not a kick scooter as depicted by
tutuzdad. As Denco says below "it had a funky off center cyclic
mechanism" that you jump on. thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 05 Apr 2004 09:44 PDT
Could it be the Ingo-Bike?

http://www.ohtm.org/1935ingo.html

http://www.cyclart.com/Ingoride.jpg

A descendant of the Ingo-Bike is the Whymcycle:

"His trademark?the Whymcycle?is a bike with a platform, the width of a
skateboard, between its two wheels. The rider powers it by making a
bouncing motion on the platform, which turns an offset rear hub and
propels the bike forward. The Whymcycle is Wagner?s version of the
Ingo-Bike, also called the Exercycle, manufactured by the
Ingersoll-Rand Corp. from 1934-37."

http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20020818/20020818_2362.asp

There are some photos of Whymcycles here (scroll about a third of the
way down the page):

http://whymcycles.home.comcast.net/

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 05 Apr 2004 09:46 PDT
Oops, I hadn't noticed that a comment had already mentioned the Ingo. Sorry.

Clarification of Question by henry1-ga on 05 Apr 2004 11:53 PDT
The ingo and whimcycles seems like it has the kind of mechanism that
the scooter would use but I am looking for a scooter (2 smallish
wheels seperated by a skateboard-like platform) not a bike/scooter
combo. Thanks.

Clarification of Question by henry1-ga on 05 Apr 2004 16:27 PDT
After further thought, the ingoride is correct. the question has been
answered. Thank you

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 05 Apr 2004 17:53 PDT
Since markj was the first to mention the Ingoride, you may want to ask
him to post his suggestion as the official answer to the question.
This will enable Mark to receive payment for his work.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Scooter
Answered By: markj-ga on 06 Apr 2004 05:45 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
henry1 --

Thanks for your comment, and I'm happy to hear that the Ingo is indeed
the scooter you are seeking.  In order for an answer to be considered
"official," it has to be posted here, so I will supplement my earlier
comment with links to a couple more websites (including another image
of the Ingo), along with a description of my search strategy.

Here is the way the Ingo is described in its entry at the website of
the Bicycle Museum of America in Bremen, Ohio.  An image of the device
is included with the entry about 2/3 down the page linked below:

"Named for Borg-Warner's Ingersoll Division, which produced and
marketed it, the Ingo was conceived by a pair of depression-era
inventors who got the idea watching kids on homemade scooters. The
rear hub was off-center, and when the rider pulled on the handlebars
and provided some body English, the machine propelled itself nicely.
It was originally called an Exer-Cycle because of its potential for
people in need of a light workout but who might not feel safe on a
conventional two-wheeler. The Ingo got plenty of publicity after a
fanatic rode one from New York to Miami in twelve days.  It was also
featured in a "Three Stooges" comedy. And it got plenty of wartime use
when motoring was discouraged."
Bicycle Museum: Bicycles
http://www.bicyclemuseum.com/Html/main.html


And, here is a description of the Ingo from the website of the U.S.
Patent and Trademark Office:

"Finally, the unique "Ingo-Bike," with its eccentrically mounted rear
wheel, represents yet another unique scooter design (Patent
#2,125,568). Although scooters with eccentrically mounted wheels were
not new, the Huyssen brothers of Chicago discovered that if the
circumference of the eccentric wheel were chosen carefully, the
scooter could be efficiently operated at speeds up to 20 MPH.
Operation required a sort of "jumping" or "rocking" motion while
standing on the platform; by choosing a proper circumference for the
eccentric wheel, the natural driving frequency of the "Ingo-Bike"
coincided with what a human operator was capable of under the
influence of gravity (just like a pogo-stick?s spring constant must be
properly selected to give it an appropriate frequency).

"The Ingo-Bike gained a certain cachet in Hollywood, particularly
since it offered a unique and stylish way of promoting physical
fitness; Carl Burgwardt sent me several ads and promotional photos
featuring stars of the ?30s (Ruby Keeler, Ralph Bellamy, Helen Morgan)
who had caught the "Ingo-Biking" bug. One magazine ad promised "the
zest of horseback riding, the fun of open sailing, the smooth, easy
speed of cycling". Of course, now that we have a "youth culture", we
rarely turn to established movie stars to keep up with what is
trendy."


Search Strategy:

I first found references to the Ingo by using the following Google searches:

scooter "up and down on"
://www.google.com/search?q=scooter+%22up+and+down+on%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=0&sa=N

scooter "jumping up and down" (searching Google Groups)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=scooter+%22jumping+up+and+down%22+&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=ISO-8859-1


I then was able to do a focused search which turned up the rest of the
available online information:

ingo scooter 
://www.google.com/search?q=%22ingo%22+scooter&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&output=search

I ended up limiting the results of this search to English-language
sites, because the term "ingo" apparently has an irrelevant meaning in
German that resulted in a few thousand unwanted "hits."



Thanks again for the opportunity to answer your question.  If any of
the above is unclear, please ask for clarification before rating this
answer.

markj-ga
henry1-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00
Mark was right on the money

Comments  
Subject: Re: Scooter
From: markj-ga on 04 Apr 2004 11:44 PDT
 
henry1 -- 

I have found information related to the device pictured at the link
below, but it appears that it was produced for only two years in the
1930s.  It is sometimes designated as a "bike" and sometimes as a
"scooter."  The bike/scooter apparently was propelled in the manner
you describe.

http://www.cyclart.com/Ingoride.jpg

If, despite the time frame you have described, you think that this is
the device you remember, let me know and I will post an answer to your
question.

You might also be interested in this 1992 patent application
drawing,from the Totally Absurd Inventions website (I have found no
indication that a scooter like this was ever marketed to the public):

http://www.totallyabsurd.com/senselessscooter.htm

markj-ga
Subject: Re: Scooter
From: denco-ga on 04 Apr 2004 12:32 PDT
 
What henry1-ga is remembering is the same type of mechanism that
is shown in the "ingoride" but in a foot powered scooter format,
like the "senseles scooter."  I remember the commercials/ads for
the model henry1-ga is talking about, since it had a funky off
center cyclic mechanism.  Might be mid to late 80's.

denco-ga
Subject: Re: Scooter
From: henry1-ga on 05 Apr 2004 15:49 PDT
 
I still have not had any luck finding this scooter though I used it in
the 80's. Any more leads?
Subject: Re: Scooter
From: henry1-ga on 05 Apr 2004 23:58 PDT
 
markj wins the prize. your post answers the question. thanks.
Subject: Re: Scooter
From: markj-ga on 06 Apr 2004 08:37 PDT
 
henry1--

Thanks much for the rating and the nice tip.

markj-ga

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