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Market Value of the entire S&P500
Category: Business and Money > Economics Asked by: aegerter-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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05 Apr 2004 09:14 PDT
Expires: 05 May 2004 09:14 PDT Question ID: 325448 |
Investment Banks talk about S&P earnings relative to the S&P500 index (65 for 2004 expected on an index of 1150). I would like to know that that means in absolute $ values for both the total market cap and the earnings. |
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Re: Market Value of the entire S&P500
Answered By: juggler-ga on 05 Apr 2004 10:43 PDT Rated: |
Hello. The market value as of 4/1/04 of the S&P 500 is $10.5 trillion. The Chicago Board Options Exchange provides a list of the market value of each component company of the S&P 500 index and the percentage that the company represents of the index. http://www.cboe.com/OptProd/snp500.asp From this data, we can easily determine the total market value of the S&P 500. The market cap of General Electric (GE) is $312,264,413,480. That represents 2.97% of the S&P 500. 312,264,413,480 --------------- = $10.5 trillion .0297 Or Microsoft (MSFT)... 270,615,432,510 --------------- = $10.5 trillion .0257 **************************************** As to the earnings question, if the earnings ratio is 65 for 2004 expected on an index of 1150, we can simply apply this to $10.5 trillion to get a $ value for the earnings: 65/1150 * $10.5 trillion = $593 billion --------- search strategy: "cap of the s&p 500" which led me to this page (that linked over to the CBOE site): http://apm.slu.edu/data.htm I hope this helps. |
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Re: Market Value of the entire S&P500
From: patrickbatemandcom-ga on 06 Apr 2004 16:11 PDT |
Your answerer referred to the market cap, but failed to address the question of earnings. Companies typically estimate next-year earnings in their annual reports. These earning estimates are non-independent and can be up to 11 months out-of-date by the time companies report their next set of accounts, so investment banks typically forcast their own earnings estimates, as do independent agencies. The point of looking at prices and earnings is to determine the relative value of stock prices (using earnings as a measuring point). It not not too simple. The price/earnings ratio (for the S&P500 market as a whole this is what is referred to by 'S&P earnings relative to the S&P500 index') can therefore be a choice of: 1. Price divided by historic earnings (i.e., todays price divided by earnings last year - could be out of date) 2. Price divided by earnings projected in annual reports (usually reported as P/E ratios in FTSE and MSCI indices) 3. Price divided by future earnings projected by the investment bank's internal analysts (let's hope conflits of interests don't rule) 4. Price divided by Concensus Foreceats (refered to as I/B/E/S on financial graphs) which take the forecasts of earnings by Concensus Economics - an independent organisation which survey and project themselves to create a future estimate. So while the principal of earnings relative to share price, what earnings are, or rather will be (we are investing for the future) will be a tricky game. Simply taking an earnings number at face value defeats the point of looking tothe future, and makes it important what to regard as future value. Earnings are not relative to an index - they are relative to a price (which an index tracks). All things equal, a price/earnings ratio of 8x is a good buy compared to a P/E ration of 16x, as the former allows recoupment of investment cost sooner. Earnings relative to index value is meaningless. The meaning of an index is that it simply bases a timeseries. The number it is based to (and hence grows from) is is arbitary. Therfore any ratio of a real number relative to an arbitary number is pointless. |
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Re: Market Value of the entire S&P500
From: juggler-ga on 06 Apr 2004 17:34 PDT |
patrickbatemandcom wrote, "Your answerer referred to the market cap, but failed to address the question of earnings. Patrick, I must reject your assertion that I failed to address any aspect of the question. The question asked, "Investment Banks talk about S&P earnings relative to the S&P500 index (65 for 2004 expected on an index of 1150). I would like to know that that means in absolute $ values for both the total market cap and the earnings." Thus, the question simply asked what "65 for 2004 expected on an index of 1150" would mean in absolute dollars. As indicated in my answer above, it would mean approximately $593 billion based on the $10.5 trillion market cap of the S&P 500. |
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