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Subject:
Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
Category: Computers Asked by: dvati0n-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
07 Apr 2004 10:09 PDT
Expires: 11 Apr 2004 19:15 PDT Question ID: 326648 |
I am wondering if there is any reason for the 568A and 568B standards for Cat5 network cabling. For instance, would taking any given random set of wires, matched at both ends, function just as well as a straight-through cable? The reason I ask was because I switch my two 24-port hubs over to 24-port switches on a network that I have set up. During that transition there were two computers that could no longer access the internet. Up until this point, the cabling from the walls to the computers were using random non-standard straight-through cabling, as well as the cabling from the patch panels to the hub. The cabling from patch panel to the wall was all standard straight-through cabling. I tried three different patch cables that I made myself using non-standard straight-through cables, and none seemed to work. I finally made a cable that follows the 586A standard and suddenly both computers were able to access the internet from the switch, while all these cables seem to work fine when connected to the hub. I suppose this is a two part question, but I hope somebody can give me some answers. Thanks. |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: edullega-ga on 07 Apr 2004 12:40 PDT |
568A and 568B difference is just this : Transmission and reception lines are interchanged. When you connect two computers, A and B, the transmission lines in A must coincide with reception lines in B and vice versa. So, you use 568A in computer A side, and 568B in computer B side. You use straight-through cable when you want an extension only. (568B in both sides works alike). You can even create your own standard for straight-through cables, if you use the same order in both ends it will work ok. Of course, that level of creativity is not seen very professional :) Here is a nice diagram of the connectors. http://home.earthlink.net/~bn_dn/cat5.htm By the way. The ?A? and ?B? letters are legacy from telephone industry, where two communicating devices are always called point A and the point B, which have both transmission and reception capabilities, just like a phones. |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: dvati0n-ga on 07 Apr 2004 13:11 PDT |
"You can even create your own standard for straight-through cables, if you use the same order in both ends it will work ok." That's what I thought...and changing the cabling is the only thing that fixed my problem above. So if it wasn't the cabling, what other explaination might you offer? |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: edullega-ga on 07 Apr 2004 18:14 PDT |
Ah ! That is an interesting physical issue. The standard and female connectors expects that pins 1,2 and 3,6 are pairs. As you see in the cable, wires 1 and 2 (green/white ? green) loops one each other, as well as 3, 6 (orange/white ? orange). Is there any difference? Anyway, 1 goes to 1, 2 goes to 2, 3 goes to 3? etc. It is not important the path that wire takes, right? Well? in DC (Direct Current), it doesn?t matter at all, but in hi frequency it becomes an issue. You are transmitting bits at rates of 100 Megabits per second. Those signals pulling up and down so fast in a thin wire generate a variable electric filed, which in the meantime creates magnetic fields around the plastic cover. The problem is that variable magnetic field produce an electrical current in the neighbor wires in the opposite direction! That means loose of data. If ?noise current? is very high, connection can?t be established. Even if the connection can be established, it cause lost packages and slow down the connection. Well, how the engineers solve that long ago? They put opposites poles together. So, the white/green-white generates circular magnetic fields clockwise along the cable, but the green wire just at his side generates the same intensity magnetic field counterclockwise (its current goes always opposite to white/green), so the magnetic fields kills each other and no ?noise current? are generated (at least, very little). So, if you connect pin 3 with blue wire and pin 6 with white/orange, their opposites currents may be so far one from the other that their magnetic fields can?t be cancelled and it may generate noise trough the wires 1 or 2. That is the reason for the non-standard cabling mysterious behavior. Even when you think it?s working, it may be slowing down your network speed. In my times, a ?creative? non standard straight-through worked fine between a hub and a near computer into a 10BaseT network. With current speeds, I don?t recommend that anymore. Hope I could help. |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: dvati0n-ga on 08 Apr 2004 04:54 PDT |
While I *think* I understand the theory behind your explaination, I still need some clarification. If I understand you right, in the case of T568A standard, when looking at the website you posted ( http://home.earthlink.net/~bn_dn/cat5.htm ), the four wires that actually are used include wires 1, 2, 3 and 6. The pairs are 1 and 2, and 3 and 6. Now since you want to use the (-) and (+) of each pair in a twist (i.e. using blue/blue white and orange/orange white), this is done in both standards. But why are the RX+ and RX- signals separated in their pin layout by another pair, unlike the TX+ and TX- pair that are kept next to each other? |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: edullega-ga on 09 Apr 2004 12:41 PDT |
The EIA/TIA-568 standard was released in 1991. It was chosen that way because the pin/pair assignments in that configuration were compatible with a wide variety of existing 2-pair voice and data applications. This configuration has pairs one and two located on the center four pins, making it compatible with most voice systems, as well as data systems that used the old USOC pair configuration for 6 conductor and 8 conductor jacks. Think that you have a single pair phone jack. Later, you got a second phone line, so you need a jack that supports two pairs. What is more practical? Doing a new male/female connectors and through away your old single line jacks? No, there is more practical to make a female connector with the first pair in the center (compatible with single pair jack) and the second pair aside. So, my female connector works for both, single pair and two pair male connectors. That is the historical reason for the pin assignment in standard. |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: dvati0n-ga on 09 Apr 2004 15:07 PDT |
edullega, thank you so much. You have answered all my questions. Many thanks! |
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Re: Reason for 568A and 568B cabling standards.
From: edullega-ga on 11 Apr 2004 07:54 PDT |
I'm glad to help you. Ey, there is still the message "There is no answer at this time" for this question. ( ? ) |
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