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Subject:
Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: plato02-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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24 Jun 2002 20:02 PDT
Expires: 01 Jul 2002 20:02 PDT Question ID: 32694 |
Need info on a device that has water poured in one side and wine comes out the other used by priests in approx year 25 CE. Possibly used at the Wedding at Canan. Thank you. |
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Re: Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
Answered By: harrym-ga on 30 Jun 2002 09:22 PDT Rated: ![]() |
Dear Plato02, The vessels mentioned in the Gospel According to John (Wedding at Cana),in which Jesus turned water into wine were identified in John 2:6 NIV: "Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons". Therefore it would seem unlikely that there was a specific device or piece of stone/pottery with separate vessels for water and wine used at the Wedding of Cana. I did locate an Associated Press article posted 4/1/2002 on the Holland Sentinel website entitled "Christianity's cradle on display Israeli exhibit,landmark attempt to document religion's roots" The exhibit at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, visited by the reporter on 3/28/2000 shows a archaelogical exhibit of the ceremonial jars which may have been referenced in the Bible's descripion of Jesus' first miracle. A photo is included which you may find here: ( http://www.hollandsentinel.com/stories/040100/rel_2.html ) Unfortunately, my efforts were fruitless to find any other type of "device" like the one you mentioned in your question. Wine was often carried in wineskins or other vessels specific for the purpose of storing/carrying/pouring wine. Since the Jewish Law required separation of various food items (such as milk and meat), it would not be unreasonable to assume that the Jewish Priests of that day would not create a method to keep water and wine in the same vessel at the same time, even if there were different compartments. I hope this has helped you. The search terms I used were: pottery of the bible era, water into wine Sincerely, HarryM-ga |
plato02-ga
rated this answer:![]() close but no cigar. I have read about the device but am unable to find the book that it was in. Thanks. |
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Re: Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
From: pwi_pwii-ga on 24 Jun 2002 21:53 PDT |
Humanly impossible, like taking 5 fish and turning the five into 5000 fish or taking a rock and putting it into a bag, shake for one minute and it turns into gold when you take it out of the bag. Sorry, it was a miracle ( something that breaks the relm of natural law). Best of wishes, Pwipwii |
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Re: Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
From: pwi_pwii-ga on 24 Jun 2002 21:55 PDT |
In addition: fermentation requires time, heat, and sugar. None of that is provided for in the question you asked. |
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Re: Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
From: bit_bucket-ga on 24 Jun 2002 21:57 PDT |
Well, the device is the "Power of the One True God, Creator of Heaven and Earth", which was first introduced in incarnate form with the power to turn water into wine at the wedding of cana, not canan (you probably meant cana, but canan is spelled 'canaan', btw) For more information, check out the reference, John 2:1 http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=JOHN+2:1-2&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on Or the whole chapter, John chapter 2: http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=JOHN+2&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on I prefer the King James version, but these links are in the NIV (New Internation Version) which contains English which should be more useful to those not versed in archaic English. By all means though, consider reading it in the 1611 Translation, Authorized by King James: http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=JOHN+2&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on Hope this helps. |
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Re: Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
From: fugitive-ga on 27 Jun 2002 21:11 PDT |
Can't give you anything other than a little common sense approach. Give me a weekend and I could probably jury rig something like the following device. If I had, say, 12 assistants it would be even easier. The technology of two millenia ago could easily have handled this: Water is poured in on left side. Vessel is tilted to right. Water stays inside left side while wine hidden inside right side vessel is poured out. __ __ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \ | / |\ | / | 1 way valve | \_|_/ | 1 way valve going down | | \ going up / | \ / | \ / | \ / | \ / H20 | Wine \ / | \ ---------------------- Hoping that my ASCII graphic comes out right. The labels should make the trivial nature of such a device clear. fugitive-ga |
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Re: Winemaker at the Wedding at Canan
From: plato02-ga on 30 Jun 2002 21:41 PDT |
Thanks for your input, but I am not interested in whether someone believes in God or not. There was a device used by "priests" of the time to get additional alms from worshipers by providing "magic" not miracles. It is the same kind of thing that was used by "priests" to open the temple doors based on the weight of the offering(well documented. |
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