I want to know when, and by whose authority, the following site was
taken offline- cache:vONg5k2n-NgJ:www.1capmetro.org/_2003/special_features/%20FY%202004%Budget.pdf
capital metro budget

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Clarification of Question by cordie-ga on 10 Apr 2004 12:58 PDT

while pinkfreud provided valuable assistance in pointing me back to
the information I'd been looking for, a very significant aspect
remains unsolved.  You see, the site I'd bookmarked and later found to
be missing is actually public information that I suspicion had been
"taken down" (for lack of a better term) by the issuing authority,
because that authority is being criticized for the facts contained in
the site, so they may have taken steps to "hide" or remove the
information from the net (which would be a significant impropriety in
and of itself) so my original question is still essentially
unanswered...can anyone help me? Additionally I am curious how
pinkfreud retrieved the site link that was sent to me. Thanks to all
concerned

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Clarification of Question by cordie-ga on 14 Apr 2004 21:38 PDT

so, after a quick answer from topbanana that was not the answer after
all, I'm still looking for some help...please.

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Clarification of Question by cordie-ga on 15 Apr 2004 09:25 PDT

OK, I understand more about how this all works now but I'm still not convinced
there isn't some "hide and go seek " being played.  You see the
proposed budget document gives some different information in some
categories, and that information was only recently (in the last few
weeks) found to be embarassing to Cap Metro so until about a week or
so ago it was still available through a Google search (and thats how I
originally found it) then voila! it wasn't there and wouldn't come up
through searches on other engines either, so I'm STILL interested in
knowing (or knowing how to know) who, when and how things changed. Cap
Metro kept this document posted concurrently with the finalized budget
for over 6 months, why change it's location (and thus availability?)
now?

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Clarification of Question by cordie-ga on 22 Apr 2004 20:05 PDT

still hoping for a response to my last carification, posted on April 15

Is this the file you're looking for?

http://www1.capmetro.org/_2003/special_features/Proposed%20FY%202004%20Budget.pdf

Or perhaps what was finally approved?

http://www1.capmetro.org/_2003/special_features/FY2004%20Approved%20Budget.pdf

No steps where taken to hide or remove the information from the site -
it's still there. So as pinkfreud kindly pointed out the answer to
your question is it was never taken down, and is still there.

If you take a look at the link you provided in the question and strip
all the junk away before the 'www.' bit (it shouldn't be there, and
will only work on the machine that the link was sent from) you'll find
that the rest of the actual website address matches that which
pinkfreud posted.

It aint rocket science! :-)

My bad, the above was all a load of rubbish (aside from the stripped
junk bit). I didn't spot the difference in the site names towards the
end of the url!

cordie-ga:

The PDF file that you were looking for is just that, a file. It is not
a website. While it is not considered good practice to rename files
after they have been posted online, it is also not unheard of.

In this particular case, and without asking the Cap Metro webmaster
directly, I can only speculate that the bookmark you had to the "FY
2004 Budget.pdf" file was created before the final budget was
approved. In fact, if you look at the name of the final approved
version, you will see that it is "FY2004 Approved Budget.pdf" ( %20 is
the notation for a space character ). The webmaster is then faced with
the need to make sure that anyone looking for the budget document
pulls down the correct one. One way to do this is to rename the
original document as the "Proposed FY 2004 Budget.pdf" file to clearly
differentiate it from the final one. Clearly, the webmaster did not
think of the possibility that visitors to the website may have
bookmarked the original file name; at the same time, there is no
requirement that the webmaster NOT rename files since web-based
content is considered dynamic (ie. always subject to change).

Since you indicate that the "Proposed FY 2004 Budget.pdf" document is
the document that you were looking for, it would seem that there is no
attempt to cover up anything hear, it is simply a case of a webmaster
who may not have fully thought out the consequences of a seemingly
innocent renaming of a file to make the name more clear.

Regards,

aht-ga
Google Answers Researcher