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Subject:
Google searches for web sites
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: skip9801-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
11 Apr 2004 04:58 PDT
Expires: 11 May 2004 04:58 PDT Question ID: 328399 |
I have a web site, along with a domain name that I registered for it. Problem is, when a google search for the site finds the main page, the small blurb of text below the first line of the page isn't text from the site but instead a small one-line advertisement from my web hosting company that says "Web Hosting | Dedicated Servers | Domain Names by Aplus.net. I would like to know why this is what google is placing as part of the find and how to stop it. | |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
Answered By: hailstorm-ga on 11 Apr 2004 19:01 PDT |
skip9801, If your site is being hosted on Aplus.net, I am sorry to say that I think they are doing things behind your back to promote their own services at the expense of yours. Since I do not have the URL for the site in question, I did a Google search for "Web Hosting | Dedicated Servers | Domain Names by Aplus.net" to see if I could find other sites so afflicted. One of the sites that came up was http://www.savethemanatee.com However, looking at the source of this site, I could not find text that references Aplus.net anywhere on the page. It is possible that what Google is seeing when crawling the page is different than what normal users see when viewing the site through their browsers. Through a process called "cloaking", some unscrupulous sites use programming to monitor the name of the browser accessing the site. If it detects a normal browser like IE or Netscape, the code is shown normally. But if the code detects a search engine spidering programming from a search engine such as Google or Yahoo the result may be an entirely different result, customized in such a way as to maximize search engine exposure. Possibly in this case, Aplus.net is doing this for all or some of the sites hosted on their servers. To test this theory, I used an online resource called Rex Swain's HTTP Viewer, located at http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html With this tool, we can access a site with different identities, known in internet speak as a "User Agent", to see whether or not the server is sending different content based on what is viewing it. First, we will access the site with the following information to make us look like a typical IE 5.0 user: Site Name: http://www.savethemanatee.com User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) The results of this test shows that "aplus.net" or any of the other advertising text is not found anywhere on the site that is seen by normal visitors. Now we will set up a test to access the site as if we were a Google program, crawling the internet in search of information to index in its search engine: Site Name: http://www.savethemanatee.com User Agent: Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html) Doing this, we find a section of code showing up that was curiously absent during our previous example: <center?style="visibility:hidden"> <a href="http://www.aplus.net">Web Hosting</a> | <a href="http://servers.aplus.net">Dedicated Servers</a> | <a href="http://domains.aplus.net">Domain Names</a> by Aplus.net </center> This code shows up six times throughout the source code for this page. From this test, it appears that Aplus.net is hijacking this site when it determines that search engines are accessing it, for the purpose of placing it's own advertising information at the forefront when user's searching the internet are attempting to find this site. I would say that there is a very good chance that the same thing is happening to your site as well. Whether or not this constitutes a violation of the Terms of Service agreement you may have with them is something you may need to research; if it is, some restitution may be in order. On another note, I've seen a number of complaints regarding the service of the Aplus.net hosting company, such as this one: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=245379&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 So it may be in your best interest to migrate your site to another, less invasive service provider. Sites Referenced: ----------------- Aplus.net http://www.aplus.net RexSwain.com http://www.rexswain.com/ Google Search Terms Used: ------------------------- "Web Hosting | Dedicated Servers | Domain Names by Aplus.net" "user-agent" HTML source url aplus.net google |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
From: is1231-ga on 23 Apr 2004 14:53 PDT |
It seems that Aplus.Net resolved the issue. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040423/laf059_1.html |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
From: skip9801-ga on 24 Apr 2004 03:43 PDT |
Thanks for letting me know about aplus.net's action to stop this advertising that was at my expense. As it is, I've spent the past couple of weeks reviewing other web hosting services and may move to lunarpages since it looks like they will host four small youth recreational web sites that I manage that I'm paying $10 / each a month to aplus.net for. Looks like lunarpages will host up to three or four multiple accounts for a much cheaper price. Thanks again! |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
From: hailstorm-ga on 27 Apr 2004 04:23 PDT |
Wow, didn't think this would end up being such a big story! Hope this serves as a warning to all other hosting services to keep clean. |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
From: skip9801-ga on 28 Apr 2004 03:21 PDT |
I found perplexing a comment that I recall in one of the references you sent me. It was Aplus.net saying that they had no idea this advertising was taking place and that it was the result of something one of their "subcontractors" was doing. |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
From: airgin-ga on 30 Apr 2004 12:45 PDT |
Well, I did a little research on this topic myself and a quick search in Google (link:www.aplus.net) for the site's backlinks show's 34,400 links pointing to the site. That's a heck of a lot for a hosting company. So I checked the first result that wasn't one of their own sites and turns out it's been cloaked. The url is www.knk-mpeg.com/home.htm and when you view the source you can't find any reference to www.aplus.net anywhere in the code. I may do some more digging into this on my own but it appears the PR statement they released was just a lie and I'm shocked they haven't been banned from Google yet, especially since there is a Google Answers thread on the subject. If need be I'll fire off an email to a couple folks to have it thoroughly investigaged. ~jason dowdell pronounced: (dow-dell) Dow like Dow Jones, Dell like Dell computers |
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some harsh live talk with aplus.net sales person 06.05.2004.
From: mentalsalami-ga on 06 May 2004 08:53 PDT |
some harsh live talk with aplus.net sales person 06.05.2004. (sorry for my quick english) sales person DAN (in text called DanB). im as Visitor74157 DanB: Hello! How may I help you? Visitor74157: what the hell is this? Visitor74157: http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/apl042204.cfm DanB: hi Visitor74157: hi DanB: How can I help you? Visitor74157: how long will it tak to your company to answer on my questions? Visitor74157: why are you putting ads in google Visitor74157: behind your customers back? DanB: ? Visitor74157: http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/apl042204.cfm DanB: what can I help you with? DanB: You looking for hosting? DanB: designs DanB: servers Visitor74157: are you putting banners in your customers web pages? DanB: no DanB: do you want to buy something? Visitor74157: yes Visitor74157: are you putting advertising in your customers google serch metatags? [pause] Visitor74157: ? DanB: ? DanB: what can I help with? Visitor74157: can you answer on my question? - simple question DanB: can you answer mine? DanB: simple DanB: Were on my site looking for hosting? Visitor74157: : are you putting advertising in your customers google serch metatags? DanB: I dont even no what your talking about. DanB: Why? DanB: I am sure we advertise all over the Net Visitor74157: becouse i wouldnt like to buy service with your advertising behind it. that why im asking DanB: We dont? Visitor74157: im reading following in web host industry review mag: Visitor74157: According to users of the Webhosting Talk (webhostingtalk.com) message board Visitor74157: San Diego-based Web hosting provider Aplus.net may be using the Web sites of its customers, Visitor74157: without their knowledge, to promote its own ranking within search engine algorithms. DanB: you in Estonia? Visitor74157: yes im DanB: Tallin? Visitor74157: so? DanB: just wondering. Visitor74157: what about? can you just answer my question? [pause] DanB: I you still there Visitor74157: yes im DanB: Do you want to buy something? Visitor74157: i would like to know something, before i buy something DanB: whats that? Visitor74157: during this conversation i hade just one question. Visitor74157: ok dan i think your company owns too many awards... DanB: Well were the best! Visitor74157: ... this conversation is tracked for your nominators, and for your future custumers to get reasonable scope about situation with aplus.net. Visitor74157: thanks DanB: Bye |
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Re: Google searches for web sites
From: mel_dvm-ga on 20 Oct 2004 06:15 PDT |
I just read this post and I am completely shocked that Aplus.net would do this sort of thing. It is absolutely unacceptable! For them to say that they had no idea it was happening is ludicrous. I have always considered them as part of the A list of hosting companies but not any longer. Melissa SovereignFunding.com SovereignFunding.net |
Subject:
Re: Google searches for web sites
From: kevinbim-ga on 19 Jan 2005 05:03 PST |
As a current customer of aPlus I can tell you that while they are not outright scam artists, they are definitely not the kind of company that you can do business with on a handshake. If all you need is very generic personal or even business hosting and you won't use up too much of a server's resources they're fine, but (even moreso than usual) meticulously read all the Terms and Service Agreements before you sign up. Do not take their free domain registration under any circumstances, just go register your own at GoDaddy. |
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