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UK income tax
Category: Business and Money Asked by: iggulden-ga List Price: $30.00 |
Posted:
25 Jun 2002 16:10 PDT
Expires: 25 Jul 2002 16:10 PDT Question ID: 33192 |
Through sales of books in other countries - US, Spain and Italy so far, I have income coming into the UK that is taxed at 40%. With 20% already going to the agent, this is a fair old bite. It occurs to me that if I have the money moved to an offshore account instead of UK, say in Jersey or Geurnsey (Non EU, by the way) then it would never enter the UK. I could then use it as a holiday account, paying for hotels etc on trips abroad. This is worthwhile if it saves that tax. Can anyone confirm if it is completely legal? I would also like to know what would happen to the account in the event of my death. Would my heirs be able to use it? |
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Re: UK income tax
Answered By: aditya2k-ga on 25 Jun 2002 16:44 PDT Rated: |
Hi iggulden, I'm afraid that you can't escape tax, even with offshore accounts, though you may have a slight advantage because of the delay in the Inland Revenue collecting tax from you. If interest is paid into your account just after the end of the tax year (after April 5), you would not need to declare the interest until the end of that tax year. This means that you could have up to 20 months to earn extra interest in an offshore account. (Source :: http://www.fsa.gov.uk/consumer/pilot_learn/financial_products/Saving/da8.html ) The UK Taxes act (760. Non-qualifying offshore funds) http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/taxes_act_2001/vol02/ictapt17a/ictapt17a-03.htm A Legal document on Offshore Funds http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/consult_new/offshore_funds.pdf Alternative methods of saving can be found at the fsa site : http://www.fsa.gov.uk/consumer/pilot_learn/financial_products/Saving/intro1.html Offshore funds are legal as long as you declare it. In the event of an account holder's death, various banks have their own rules. In some banks, joint accounts are a must to ensure that your funds are not lost in the event of your death. Have a good day Cheers, aditya2k. | |
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iggulden-ga
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Unfortunately, this does not answer the question, as posed. Specifically, I was trying to find out if money that NEVER enters the UK and is used only as a 'holiday account' can escape UK income tax. Such accounts did not form part of the answer and neither was any mention made of heirs. I am unhappy at being charged for this. |
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Re: UK income tax
From: tehuti-ga on 25 Jun 2002 17:04 PDT |
Hello iggulden, I cannot speak with confidence on the labyrinthine workings of the UK Inland Revenue. However, I wish to make two comments: 1. There are special rules which apply to artists and authors, which might or might not be of relevance to you http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/consult_new/profit_ave_draft.pdf 2. If you are a 40% taxpayer, you would certainly benefit from the services of an accountant. Most accountants in the UK charge between £250 and £500 to deal with an individual's tax affairs, and in most cases save the client more than their fees in tax savings. |
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Re: UK income tax
From: iggulden-ga on 26 Jun 2002 05:40 PDT |
Thanks Tehuti, I have an accountant and was going to ask them the same question, but thought it would be worth trying the researchers at Google Answers as well. Seems to be a flaw in the system that a researcher can claim an answer fee for an incomplete or flawed answer. Iggulden |
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Re: UK income tax
From: iggulden-ga on 26 Jun 2002 09:47 PDT |
I won't be asking for a refund - I'll just chalk this one up to experience. However, I think the answer may be wrong. If I was working in America, and spending my pay there, I would hardly need to declare it to to UK tax authorities. It would be outside their area, surely? Even if I were living in the Uk, money earned abroad by my agents or interests cannot be the business of Uk taxes? Perhaps I'm just not getting the answer I want, which is hardly the fault of the researcher. |
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Re: UK income tax
From: tehuti-ga on 26 Jun 2002 15:13 PDT |
Hi again iggulden, I braved the bowels of the UK Inland Revenue web site and came up with this: "If you are ordinarily resident and domiciled in the UK, you will be liable to UK tax on all your overseas income, whether or not it is brought to the UK. So you will have to pay UK tax on your overseas income even if you keep it overseas or spend it abroad." So what is ordinarily resident or domiciled? Not the same as being "resident"! "You will be resident in the UK for a tax year if you spend 183 days or more in the UK during the tax year, or your visits to the UK average 91 days or more a tax year over a maximum of four years." "You will be ordinarily resident in the UK if, broadly, you are resident in the UK year after year. You can remain ordinarily resident in the UK even if you are not resident in the UK during one particular year - for example, because you normally live in the UK but go abroad for a long holiday and do not set foot in the UK during that year. Or, you can be resident in the UK in a particular year without being ordinarily resident in the UK - for example, because you normally live abroad but spend more than 182 days in the UK in that year. You will usually be domiciled in the country in which you have your permanent home." The info goes on into various permutations and combinations, as well as possibilities of relief if the money has already been taxed abroad, which are too much to summarise here. You can read it at http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/pdfs/ir139.htm Please note that I am simply pointing you towards information in the public domain, and that this comment cannot be construed as specific advice :) |
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Re: UK income tax
From: iggulden-ga on 27 Jun 2002 16:39 PDT |
Thank you for the research, Tehuti. Not really what I wanted to hear from the Inland Revenue, but it couldn't be clearer. Best, Iggulden |
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