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Subject: Waste water disposal
Category: Health
Asked by: bromam-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 24 Apr 2004 15:35 PDT
Expires: 24 May 2004 15:35 PDT
Question ID: 335606
What type of health promotion message can I use, which encourages
positive behavior choices concerning waste water disposal?
What happens after the toilet flushes? Waste water disposal.

Request for Question Clarification by digsalot-ga on 24 Apr 2004 16:25 PDT
Could you be a little more specific?  Are you enouraging people to
flush toilets?  Are you wanting people to do something with water from
the toilet after it flushes or with sewerage in general?  I can see a
connection as in some people are on sewer lines with commercial
treatment of waste water and some are on septic systems which treat
waste water in the back yard.  Perhaps there is an issue with that you
want addressed?  Each of these methods of treatment would have a
different answer as to what happens after the toilet flushes.  Are you
including "gray water" such as laundry water in your question?

And could you connect it to the 'health' issue a little more clearly?

It is actually a huge subject you are asking about.

Digsalot

Clarification of Question by bromam-ga on 26 Apr 2004 09:27 PDT
I would like to know when we flush our toilets where does the waste in
the water go.  What happens to the water once it gets to where it is
going? What is the procees of treating this water?  How much of a
pollutant does flushing the toilet cause?   I can see a connection as
in some people are on sewer lines with commercial treatment of waste
water and some are on septic systems which treat waste water in the
back yard.  Perhaps there is an issue with that you
want addressed? Yes, the issue I want addressed is of environmental
concern. Each of these methods of treatment would have a different
answer as to what happens after the toilet flushes. Are you including
"gray water" such as laundry water in your question? Yes, I am.  And
could you connect it to the 'health' issue a little more clearly? The
basic health issue is our drinking water and specifically the ocean,
where the sewage is dumped.
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Subject: Re: Waste water disposal
Answered By: digsalot-ga on 26 Apr 2004 16:28 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hello there

This question opens a can of worms as to whom is telling the truth,
when are they telling the truth, and have they ever told the truth.

There are of course claims made by the sewage treatment industry both
municipal and for private septic systems ranging from the water that
leaves the system is so pure you can drink it without further
treatment to claims that commercial sewage treatment systems are
poisoning us all.

Over the next paragraphs I will try to present cases and material
supporting both views and I am very much afraid after it is all done,
you will still have to do some decision making on your own.

After you flush your toilet, regardless of whether you are on an urban
sewer system or a septic system, after some of the water is removed,
you will have "sludge."  Now what happens to that sludge is where the
stories begin to separate.  Basic sludge is about the only thing the
various treatment systems have in common.

Now, we split the story even more.  If you have a backyard septic
system, sludge is about all you have to worry about and I will cover
that as a separate entry.  However, if you are on a municipal system,
the toilet sludge is only part of the story.  Many other forms of
contamination enter the picture.  If you have a weak stomach, you may
want to stop reading now.

The "sludge" mixture in an urban sanitary sewer line can contain
everything from dangerous chemicals such as dioxins from small service
industries such as dry-cleaners and even doing your own laundry
(dioxins become part of the fabric during the 'finishing process')
human blood and other body fluids (mortuaries do connect to the lines
and they do use them to dispose of liquid waste during the embalming
process), industrial chemicals, even radioactive materials are part of
the mix. - - "Radioactive materials are sometimes discharged into
municipal sewer systems by hospitals, decontamination laundries,
research facilities, and manufacturers licensed by the Nuclear
Regulatory Commission (NRC). NRC regulations fall short, however, in
controlling low-level radioactive wastes being discharged into
municipal sewer systems, possibly putting treatment plant workers,
plant property, and the general public at risk. During the past
decade, at least nine cases of radioactive contamination of sewage
sludge have occurred at treatment plants." - quote from EJnet.org -
"Nuclear Regulation: Action Needed to Control Radioactive
Contamination at Sewage Treatment Plants"
http://www.ejnet.org/sludge/radioactivity/gao_radsludge.txt

Do you want to know what is being dumped into the sludge in your
particular area?  Then you can use this database from the EPA.  Make
sure to switch "Type of Transfer" to "POTW" (Publicly Owned Treatment
Works = Sewage Treatment Plant). Then put in the county and state and
run the query. Go back and try it again if you need to narrow the
search down to a specific facility (caution: facility names may be
misspelled).
http://www.rtknet.org/tri/off.php - From rtknet.org

You specify - "The basic health issue is our drinking water and
specifically the ocean, where the sewage is dumped."

I am very glad you did not limit the question to a particular country
because what is happening elsewhere in the world comes into play of
necessity.  And even a general answer to your question needs to
include not only what happens to water after it leaves the toilet, it
also needs to include related information from those who do not have a
toilet to flush.

By the year 2000 there were 23 cities in the world with populations in
excess of 10 million people. Eighteen of these cities are in the
"developing world."

You may find this report from Akhtar Hameed Khan writen for UNICEF to
be of interest.  It begins with "On the brink of the 21st century,
half the world?s people are enduring a medieval level of sanitation.
Almost 3 billion individuals do not have access to a decent toilet,
and many of them are forced to defecate on the bare ground or queue up
to pay for the use of a filthy latrine. This unconscionable
degradation continues despite a fundamental truth: Access to safe
water and adequate sanitation is the foundation of development. For
when you have a medieval level of sanitation, you have a medieval
level of disease, and no country can advance without a healthy
population."
http://www.ejnet.org/sludge/water.html

"To deny people basic sanitation is not just inhumane?it also kicks
the first step out from a country?s ladder of development. History has
taught that a safe means to dispose of bodily wastes is not a luxury
that can wait for better economic times but a key element in creating
them." - from the same report.

And of course the discharge from these areas eventually makes its way
into the streams and rivers and ultimately to the oceans.

Now, back to your basic question.  

This from the National Council for Science and the Environment:
"Waste discharges from municipal sewage treatment plants are a
significant source of water quality problems throughout the country.
States report that municipal discharges are the second leading source
of water quality impairment in all of the nation's waters (rivers and
streams, lakes, and estuaries and coastal waters). Pollutants
associated with municipal discharges include nutrients (which can
stimulate growth of algae that deplete dissolved oxygen which is
essential for aquatic ecosystems, since most fish and other aquatic
organisms "breathe" oxygen dissolved in the water column), bacteria
and other pathogens (which may impair drinking water supplies and
recreation uses), as well as metals and toxic chemicals from
industrial and commercial activities and households." - - This report
deals with the Clean Water Act and what is being done or not being
done to implement it.
http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSreports/water/h2o-29.cfm?&CFID=13633240&CFTOKEN=35810771

This article explains the difference between the "public promise" of
sanitary systems and the reality.  You have every right to be
concerned about the environment and what happens after you flush the
toilet.
"The Sludge Hits the Fan" - Chapter 8 of the book "Toxic Sludge is
Good for You! -- Lies Damn Lies and the Public Relations" by John
Stauber and Sheldon Rampton of the Center for Media and Democracy
You may want to read it carefully since much of the answer you are
looking for is found there and if I try to paraphrase it to reproduce
here, I would likely destroy the suthor's original meaning.  So read
it as is and consider it an integral part of this answer.  The section
called "A Brief History of Slime" may open your eyes.  It includes the
following statement:  "Over 60,000 toxic substances and chemical
compounds can be found in sewage sludge, and scientists are developing
700 to 1,000 new chemicals per year." -
http://www.ejnet.org/sludge/sludge.html

And just as an additional note on the above, as dangerous as sludge
is, A July 1997 Seattle Times investigation by Duff Wilson found that,
across the nation, industrial wastes laden with heavy metals and other
dangerous materials are being used in fertilizers and spread over
farmland. The process, which is legal, saves dirty industries the high
costs of disposing of hazardous wastes.

That in itself may be one of the worst uses for what you flush down
the toilet. (just a personal opinion)

You will find much more here: "Sewage Sludge Homepage"
http://www.ejnet.org/sludge/#fertilizer

Now, I did say I would give you both sides of the picture.  Here is
the "official one" from The United States Environmental Protection
Agency?s Office of Wastewater Management.
http://www.epa.gov/owm/

As I have put together this answer, I am more glad than ever that I
live in a rural area and have my own septic system.  At least I know
what goes into it and where it goes.  The "pollution" from a toilet
flush can be rendered rather harmless through simple biological means.
 It is all the rest of the c**p that is added later in commercial
treatment programs that cause the major problems.

As for the first part of your question: "What type of health promotion
message can I use, which encourages positive behavior choices
concerning waste water disposal?"

How about - "Adequate and safe sanitation is the foundation of all development?"

I also realize I may have misinterpreted your question completely.  As
I mentioned in the request for clarification, it is a huge subject and
I could have gone off in a hundred directions at once.

If I have done so, please let me know and we'll start again.

Search - Google
Terms - wastewater treatment, sewage treatment, environmental effects
of waste water treatment

If I may clarify anything before you rate the answer, please ask.

Cheers
Digsalot

P.S. The New York/New Jersey region has ceased oceanic dumping of
sewage.  Let's hope that practice spreads.

Clarification of Answer by digsalot-ga on 30 Apr 2004 10:42 PDT
Thank you for your kind words and the extra.  We look forward to being
of service again if you need us.

Digs
bromam-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
Outstanding answer, I had to clarify the question, but once that was
done, I was given an answer that more than satisfied, what I
originally requested.

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