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Subject: Geology
Category: Science
Asked by: curiousrp-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 25 Apr 2004 01:24 PDT
Expires: 25 May 2004 01:24 PDT
Question ID: 335789
Given the fact that oil has been pumped out of the ground 24/7/365 by
thousands upon thousands of pumps all over the world for so many
years, what replaces the space previously held by the oil? 
My question assumes that the oil supply is finite and that oil is been
removed faster than it is formed. Water was once sugested as an answer
but after what must be about one hundred years, won't there be a net
deficit by now?
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Subject: Re: Geology
Answered By: digsalot-ga on 25 Apr 2004 08:22 PDT
 
Hello there

livioflores-ga has provided some interesting information in the
comments dealing with stability and the non-need for us to replace the
oil removed.  That may very well be true in come situations and may
not effect future production from some wells.

However, nature frequently takes over where we leave off and conducts
a replacement of its own and in some cases the damage has been quite
high.  Surface deformations and subsidence have taken place in more
than one oil field.  - "One recent estimate placed the annual cost of
subsidence damage and mitigation within the U.S. alone at over $100
million" - From Rapid subsidence over oil fields measured by SAR
interferometry/Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of
Technology, Pasadena, California
http://www-radar.jpl.nasa.gov/s323/IntSARapps/LH-Belridge_GRL.html - -
You will find many additional references here.

From Us Department of Energy and Terralog - "Subsidence and Casing
Damage Study, California  - Fluid extraction and injection operations
in several shallow diatomite reservoirs have induced significant
subsidence, surface fissures, and structural damage to wells. Terralog
has completed a detailed review and analysis of production related
subsidence and well damage. In collaboration with Lawrence Berkeley
Labs and Sandia National Laboratory, Terralog is developing improved
subsidence and damage models for these fields."
http://www.terralog.com/subsidenceexamples.htm

From Terralog - "The weight of overburden sediments above a producing
formation is supported partially by the rock matrix and partially by
the pressurized fluid within the rock porespace. When fluid pressure
is reduced by oil and gas production, more of the load is transferred
to the rock matrix resulting in formation compaction. This subsurface
compaction can sometimes produce surface subsidence with significant
displacements in the both the vertical and horizontal directions. In
extreme instances surface fissures have been created, fault movement
has been induced, well casings have been seriously damaged, and
offshore platforms have partially submerged."
http://www.terralog.com/subside.htm - - - - - In this website you will
find mathematical and elastic models, case studies and more, several
with detailed illustrations.

Induced seismicity is another situation caused by oil removal.  In
other words, the removal of oil can cause earthquakes, even in regions
normally quiet when it comes to seismic activity, such as parts of
southern Texas. This from the NORSAR website: - "From oil and gas
fields the problems relating to induced seismicity have been known
since the 1920, and were 30 years later thoroughly studied at an oil
field near Wilmington, California, where the oil production triggered
a series of damaging earthquakes. In the last decade a number of
examples of earthquake activity related to oil and gas production as
well as injection of liquids under high pressure have been observed,
although not with as serious consequences as for Wilmington."
http://www.norsar.no/seismology/induced/

There may be a little confusion caused by the above statement as
"Induced Seismicity" is also a term used by the oil industry to defind
deliberate, man made 'mini-quakes' used in the finding of oil. 
However, the article I quoted is clearly intended to discuss quakes
caused by the removal of oil, not the discovery of it.

This paper deals with earthquakes in Canada caused by oil and gas extraction:
"New model for induced seismicity caused by hydrocarbon production in
the Western Canada Sedimentary Basin"
http://www.mustaqeem.ca/abstract.htm

Even pumping water into the ground to try and replace the missing oil
can have negative consequences. - "Small ground motions have, in the
past, been attributed to increases in fluid pressure in rocks. The
most notable occurrence was in Colorado in the 1960s. Denver-area
residents, who had not felt an earthquake in 80 years, experienced
over 1,300 of them when the Rocky Mountain Arsenal pumped 165 million
gallons of its wastewater into a 12,000-foot-deep borehole over a
four-year period."
http://dax.geo.arizona.edu/earthscope/didyou/waterquakes.html - From Earthscope

So, the most general answer to your question about what replaces the
removed oil is "the ground above it" and as for a net deficit - yes
there is one.  Sometimes the damage caused by oil depletion drags by
months or years and nobody knows just what the final outcome will be. 
Only time will tell.

I hope that this, along with the material supplied by livioflores-ga
in comments will provide a fairly complete picture of what happens
when oil is removed from the ground.  There may not be a "need" to
replace it from the production standpoint.  But there is certainly an
economic and moral need to try and stabilize these fields in some
manner.  A hundred million dollars a year in damage caused by oil
extraction is not something that can just be brushed aside by the oil
industry and government simply saying there is "no need" for
replacement.

Search - Google
Terms - oil production and earth deformity, oil production and
subsidence, oil production and earthquakes

Websites are included in the text.

If I may clarify anything, please ask.

Cheers
Digsalot
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Subject: Re: Geology
From: livioflores-ga on 25 Apr 2004 06:30 PDT
 
It appears that oil replacing is not necessary, the oil reservories
are stable bubbles or caves of the rock formation.
See the following pages:
"Oil and Gas Extraction":
"When oil or gas is found, the drill pipe and bit are pulled from the
well, and metal pipe (casing) is lowered into the hole and cemented in
place. The casing?s upper end is fastened to a system of pipes and
valves called a wellhead, or ?Christmas Tree,? through which natural
pressure forces the oil or gas into separation and storage tanks. If
natural pressure is not great enough to force the oil to the surface,
pumps may be used. In some cases, water, steam, or gas may be injected
into the oil-producing formation to improve recovery."
http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs005.htm


From "Virtual Science Fair: The Petroleum Industry":
"Technological Advancements": (steam injection to fecilitate the oil extraction)
http://www.alumni.ca/~wongi3i/tech.html

"The Sciences":
http://www.alumni.ca/~wongi3i/science.html


I have not found references about the need to replace the extracted
oil in the reservoir.

If this is considered by you as a proper answer let me know so I can
post this in the answer box and can claim the price.

Regards.
livioflores-ga
Subject: Re: Geology
From: neilzero-ga on 25 Apr 2004 09:39 PDT
 
I understand the condition you fear has already occured in Alabama and
Loisiana were the ground level is sinking due to oil and methane =
natural gas that was removed early in the 20th century. Some of the
encroachment of the Gulf of Mexico is due to tilting of the North
America tetonic plate, but concensis seems to be; creating the void is
part of the problem. In recent decades it has been found that replacig
the oil with something, means significately more oil can be removed
with less energetic pumps, so additional land sinking will likely be
rare in the future (most places) because of underground voids being
left. Carbon dioxide does a better than most job of getting more oil
out, so carbon dioxide injection may become big business, if the
curent hoopla about carbon dioxide causing global warming persists. In
my opinion, pressurizing with carbon dioxide is an excelent stratagy
as we may get new ice age, shortly after or instead of green house
warming. The carbon dioxide could then be released into the atmosphere
to reduce the severity of the new ice age.   Neil
Subject: Re: Geology
From: neilzero-ga on 25 Apr 2004 09:48 PDT
 
I understand the condition you fear has already occured in Alabama and
Loisiana where the ground level is sinking due to oil and methane =
natural gas that was removed early in the 20th century. Some of the
encroachment of the Gulf of Mexico is due to tilting of the North
America tetonic plate, but concensis seems to be; creating the void is
part of the problem. In recent decades it has been found that replacig
the oil with something, means significately more oil can be removed
with less energetic pumps, so additional land sinking will likely be
rare in the future (most places) because of underground voids being
left. Carbon dioxide does a 'better than most' job of getting more oil
out, so carbon dioxide injection may become big business, if the
curent hoopla about carbon dioxide causing global warming persists. In
my opinion, pressurizing with carbon dioxide is an excelent stratagy
as we may get new ice age, shortly after, or instead of green house
warming. The carbon dioxide could then be released into the atmosphere
to reduce the severity of the new ice age.   Neil

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