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Subject: Computers
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: joefin-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 25 Apr 2004 13:30 PDT
Expires: 25 May 2004 13:30 PDT
Question ID: 336009
My "C" drive of 4 gigs is almost filled up and yet my "D" drive shows
27 gigs free.  How do I get apps over to the "D" drive without doing
any up-setment to the way the start routine works

Request for Question Clarification by mathtalk-ga on 25 Apr 2004 13:41 PDT
Hi, joefin-ga:

To some extent the plan for moving applications from one drive to
another without perturbing the start-up(?) of the computer or the apps
depends on the operating system you are using.  It would expedite
things if you explained what OS is installed on your computer (or if
there are more than one installed).

regards, mathtalk-ga

Clarification of Question by joefin-ga on 27 Apr 2004 04:35 PDT
Please accept that I am totally non-geek (in the good sense) so be
patient.  The "D" is extra / separate drive- added by my son about a
year after I bought the computer bcause I was running out of space - 
Never thought that would happen - my orignal computer was a Commodore
64 and then I had the orig Mac - verion 1.0 -

Anyway the "D" drive is totally separate

Hope this is the clarification you are looking for

Joe Finnegan

Clarification of Question by joefin-ga on 27 Apr 2004 04:41 PDT
Add:

This is an "E - Machine" running Windows 98 - coveer shows that it has
32MB ram and 4.3gig HD.  I believe my son added 128K of RAM (He had
given me Flight Simulator for Christmas) and I know he added the 32GIG
HD - I'm not certain how to check for the RAM

Thanx again

Request for Question Clarification by mathtalk-ga on 27 Apr 2004 18:32 PDT
Hi, joefin-ga:

I had much the same experience with the eMachines box that I bought
for my kids.  The memory and harddrive that came with it were very
undersized for playing games.

My approach was to move "games" from the Program Files folder
(directory) on the C: drive to the D: drive.  Games normally don't set
themselves out to provide services to other software, so this is
normally a higher probability of success than moving (for example) the
Microsoft Office applications or the Internet Explorer.

In the worst case one finds that simply moving a directory from one
drive to another has made the game unplayable, and it would have to be
reinstalled.

Another candidate for migration might be Adobe Acrobat Reader, a very
common "add-in" to Internet Explorer that allows PDF files to be
viewed off the Internet (much the way that Microsoft Word let's you
view Word documents from the Internet, inside the frame of the IE
browser).

Perhaps if you could post the higher level structure of your Program
Files directory under C:, we could spot some specific things to move. 
Moving files and directories from one drive to another can be done
fairly easily with Windows Explorer (not to be confused with Internet
Explorer, but it would probably make Bill Gates proud if it were). 
You can use Ctrl-X (Cut) and Ctrl-V (Paste) to tell Windows Explorer
to take an application folder off the C: drive and put it on the D:
drive.

I'll be happy to give more explicit directions once we've identified
some specific application folders that can be safely migrated.

And in the future when a game or other software package gives you the
option of where to install it, the rule is probably to put them on D:.

regards, mathtalk-ga

Clarification of Question by joefin-ga on 29 Apr 2004 04:05 PDT
You've got me on the right track - I hope - I've copied a couple of
files from the "C" to the "D" - which means I now have 284MM on the
"C" - but still using more than 4 megs .  Question - when you say
"post the higher level structure of the Program files"  - Do you mean
I should give you a listing - that I just type out?  Is a Program file
different from an application file?? -  I may not be able to get back
to you again until the week-end - but don't think for a moment I'm not
appreciative of this help.

Joe Finnegan

Request for Question Clarification by mathtalk-ga on 29 Apr 2004 06:32 PDT
Hi, Joe:

Actually what I meant was that there's a directory called C:\Program Files.

The fact that they put a blank in the middle of the directory name
makes it a little confusing.  If you look at the directory structure
in Windows Explorer, under the C: and D: drives, you'll probably see
what I'm talking about.

I created a D:\Program Files directory (on the D: drive) and moved
some of the kids' "game" directories from C: to D: without any
apparent harm to the games being played.

Some applications are not quite so "portable" however, because the
Windows "registery" stores paths (directory + filenames) for many
features that pertain to these applications, and these registery
entries are not automatically updated when you move the files that
they refer to.

It would be a pain to type in all the subdirectories under "Program
Files" by hand.  What I'll suggest first is to use Windows Explorer so
you can see these subdirectories, and right click on a few of them to
select the Properties, which will show the collective size of the
subdirectories' files (among other things).  That would help to make
plans for what to move.  You can then run a few likely suspects past
the assembled experts, and we can advise whether moving that directory
is likely to be pain-free.  Or not...

best wishes, mathtalk-ga
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Subject: Re: Computers
From: topbanana-ga on 25 Apr 2004 14:10 PDT
 
Are these drives two physical devices or two partitions on the same drive?
Subject: Re: Computers
From: topbanana-ga on 27 Apr 2004 15:02 PDT
 
This probably might not be the answer you're looking for but the
easiest way in my experience in the past has been to backup everything
and start from afresh. Everything in the registry would have to be
modified to point to the new drive if you decided to move this over
and this is no simple task and not guaranteed to work.

I don't see why you can't just continue installing apps by specifying
that they should be installed on the larger drive, likewise any data
you have to save.
Subject: Re: Computers
From: mircveerudu-ga on 03 May 2004 20:20 PDT
 
Have a look at this site: http://www.funduc.com/app_mover.htm

Quoting the 1st paragraph from their site:

"Application Mover is a tool that relocates installed programs from
one path to another on your hard disk. Application Mover takes files
found in the path specified in the 'Current Path' field (see below)
and moves them to the 'New Path' path. Application Mover scans the
windows registry for references to files located in the 'Current'
field and changes those references to the 'New' path. Application
Mover also scans all windows shortcuts in the Start Menu and adjusts
path references to the new program location. Finally, *.ini and
Install.log files present in the original program path are checked for
strings matching the old path location. If found, these strings are
changed to the new location. Confirmation dialogs are available if you
enable the 'Confirm changes' checkbox (see below). If a file is 'busy'
and cannot be changed to the new location, a reboot prompt is offered.
Pending changes are then completed after the reboot.

Application Mover is designed to move programs from one path to a
different path on the same hard disk or to another hard disk on that
same computer. The program works on specify paths (folders). For
example, you can move: c:\prog\editor -> c:\oldstuff\edit or to a path
on a different drive such d:\rare\editor. Application Mover is not
intended to be a clone utility. Technical users can put the program to
use in other ways but the standard functioning of Application Mover is
that the physical drive arrangement & lettering should remain constant
on your machine.

Application Mover is a 32 bit application for Windows 95/98/ME
NT/2000/XP (Pro & Home)."

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