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Subject:
Using a US Telephone on a UK (BT Phone system)
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: amateursurgeon-ga List Price: $7.00 |
Posted:
26 Jun 2002 10:34 PDT
Expires: 26 Jul 2002 10:34 PDT Question ID: 33605 |
I'm looking for a DECT phone which can handle two outgoing phone lines. The only one I can find is a Siemens Gigaset 2420, an American model. I live in the UK, and use both BT & Telewest phone lines. What I want to know is: (1.) Will the American Gigaset work with the UK phone system (I know it has to be BABT approved to be legally usable - but that's my concern ;) ). I've seen modems that have adaptors to use the BT RJ11 plugs, so i presume i could just use one of those, and a 110->220 transformer for the power. (2.) Will caller ID work on the Gigaset - is caller ID done differently on US networks to UK ? |
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Re: Using a US Telephone on a UK (BT Phone system)
From: dmsvoltaire-ga on 26 Jun 2002 11:30 PDT |
Hi: I am not an expert on this subject, but I know enough to at least give you a little information. European cellphones use a system called GSM, which is a digital cellular phone system. The U.S. is still using primarily an analog system (the name of which I don't recall at the moment and it's not that important in this context). Although we do have digital phones, the cellular system we actually use is still primarily analog. Because the U.S. system was developed first, we now have to backtrack to 'digitize' ourselves, whereas countries in Europe and elsewhere did not start widely using cellphones until it was possible to build a digital network. There are some GSM phones sold within the U.S., which can then be used in Europe and other countries, but they are very expensive and not widely available. The key thing you need to remember in buying your phone is to ask whether or not it is a GSM phone. If it is, then it should work in the UK. I hope this helps. |
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Re: Using a US Telephone on a UK (BT Phone system)
From: dmsvoltaire-ga on 26 Jun 2002 11:34 PDT |
Oh, for heaven's sake. I just realized that your question had *nothing* to do with cellphones, but landline phones. Now I have a very red face! <g> I do have something I'd like to point out, though, about your using a US electrical product in the UK. Long-term use of an electrical converter can be a problem. A 220-volt electrical line generates quite a bit more heat than a 110-volt line. The converter, as a result, becomes quite hot. I've actually melted more than one myself when leaving an item plugged in for more than a few hours. If you're going to use a phone, I can see that this could be a serious problem. I think you'd be much better off finding a product that is internally wired to handle a 220-volt power supply. |
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Re: Using a US Telephone on a UK (BT Phone system)
From: bearcave-ga on 26 Jun 2002 15:11 PDT |
Yes, the phone should work, given a suitable line adaptor. The UK and US Caller-ID systems are different. It almost certainly won't work. I'm not certain, but I think that the DECT frequencies used in the US differ from those used in Europe. So it won't work with other DECT handsets here, and you may (I don't know the licencing status of the bands used in the US here) have the Radio Authority descend from on high all perturbed. I reckon your best bet would be to ask the good people in uk.telecom. Someone will have an exact answer, and someone else may be able to point you in the direction of an equivalent UK product. dmsvoltaire might like to know that the UK (and Europe) had extensive analogue cellular networks. |
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Re: Using a US Telephone on a UK (BT Phone system)
From: chromedome-ga on 26 Jun 2002 15:35 PDT |
FWIW, during my time in retail electronics here in Canada I sold numerous cordless phones which were to end up in Europe and the U.K. All that was necessary, aside from legal issues, was to 1) replace the power adaptor with a european model and 2) purchase an adaptor for the modular line cord. I had enough repeat customers (UK, Germany, Iceland) to be confident that this works. I can't advise you about the Caller ID issue, unfortunately, but if I can turn up definitive info I'll post an answer. |
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Re: Using a US Telephone on a UK (BT Phone system)
From: kjack-ga on 02 Jul 2002 08:57 PDT |
This DECT phone will work in the UK. I have brought US phones to the US and used them with 100% success. You need to buy a US to BT style phone jack adapter which you will find on the web. If you can't find one then buy the BT style plug at B&Q, remove the US phone line plug and fit the BT type. The red and green wires in the phone line cable go the center two wires of the BT plug. Polarity is not critical. The phone will ring correctly and will work without any problems. The DECT transmissions however are not on a UK allocation and that maybe an issue at customs when you import it. You say this a US 2 line phone and therfore may have just one phone line cable coming out of the phone. The answer here is that the red and green wires are line 1 and the yellow and black wires are line 2. In the UK this will not work into a single BT socket so you will have to solder a flying lead to each pair and fit a BT style plug on each of the flying leads. Plug each of the flying leads into your two BT lines. By the way I have also taken UK phones and used them in the US. That is not so easy as UK phones are wired in a way that requires you make up a small conversion box between the phone and the incoming line or the phone will not ring! |
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